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    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    You're misunderstanding cause I'm on the other side of your debate. I didn't nor never said he should know EVERYTHING. - in caps so you can see it.- I said with this issue it's odd he didn't know with his playtime beingg known. Thats why I made the sonic example. I don't know EVERYTHING about sonic.. but I DO know he was made by SEGA. Which is the point I made.
    There have been huge Sega logos on all of the Sonic games each time you start them. This can't compare to the demolition timer which is INVISIBLE for most of its duration.

    Seriously... -_-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    There have been huge Sega logos on all of the Sonic games each time you start them. This can't compare to the demolition timer which is INVISIBLE for most of its duration.

    Seriously... -_-
    Everything. he missed everything ingame, he missed all housing updates. All patchnotes, all lodestone enteries... HE.EVEN.MISSED.PEOPLE.COMPLAINING. That's bigger then SEGA. And perfectly makes my point for me. Even going with your disbief.... picture someone coming to you saying Sonic is a Sony product with a serious face. How do you feel. And don't say it can't happen cause apparently The world is on fire and OP missed it somehow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    Everything. he missed everything ingame, he missed all housing updates. All patchnotes, all lodestone enteries... HE.EVEN.MISSED.PEOPLE.COMPLAINING. That's bigger then SEGA. And perfectly makes my point for me. Even going with your disbief.... picture someone coming to you saying Sonic is a Sony product with a serious face. How do you feel. And don't say it can't happen cause apparently The world is on fire and OP missed it somehow.
    Why are you so obsessed with OP? Most people are now talking about how the presence of demolition in the game needs to be far clearer and you just keep saying "BUT OP...!!!!!!!" It's like you're covering your ears and shouting OP over and over again, while the rest of us are actually discussing what is obviously poor ui design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Why are you so obsessed with OP? Most people are now talking about how the presence of demolition in the game needs to be far clearer and you just keep saying "BUT OP...!!!!!!!" It's like you're covering your ears and shouting OP over and over again, while the rest of us are actually discussing what is obviously poor ui design.
    Cause it's his actions that started this thread and I explained this already. I'm already writing a reply to him asking one question. If you can't see what my point was then I got nothing. I explained it for who knows how many pages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    Cause it's his actions that started this thread and I explained this already. I'm already writing a reply to him asking one question. If you can't see what my point was then I got nothing. I explained it for who knows how many pages.
    I see your point. You don't see ours at all. We are discussing ui design and you're harping on about OP over and over and over...

    We know what happened to OP is very eyebrow raising. OP admitted this himself. No one is saying otherwise. But it does highlight the fact that demolition is more or less a hidden mechanic in the game, and new players would be especially vulnerable to this bad design. But I don't think you care about this at all. You care about showing everyone how stupid you think OP is. The quality of the game just doesn't enter your mind. You want to ridicule someone, not discuss the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I see your point. You don't see ours at all. We are discussing ui design and you're harping on about OP over and over and over...

    We know what happened to OP is very eyebrow raising. OP admitted this himself. No one is saying otherwise. But it does highlight the fact that demolition is more or less a hidden mechanic in the game, and new players would be especially vulnerable to this bad design. But I don't think you care about this at all. You care about showing everyone how stupid you think OP is. The quality of the game just doesn't enter your mind. You want to ridicule someone, not discuss the game.
    You see part of it.. but thats on me cause I didn't make it clear enough. This case SE can't fix, putting your playtime in the title was a no go. I'm never goign to go - oh you have 1860 days clearly it's ok for you not to know -insert hot topic here- And because of that I can't see how SE could fix THAT. I don't think they can. Cause it's a user error. Yeah pointing at issues like the timers being hidden is all well and good.. but hear me out. That wasn't the problem. He never entered his house in 45 plus 80 days. If he had we wouldn't be here now would we? And you can tell me - he didn't have time- I dunno if I buy that.. it literally only takes a few seconds to load in and go inside. It just looks like he didn't give a damn until it was already gone. and from that point.. how is SE posed to fix that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    And you can tell me - he didn't have time- I dunno if I buy that.. it literally only takes a few seconds to load in and go inside. It just looks like he didn't give a damn until it was already gone. and from that point.. how is SE posed to fix that?
    Oof. They said they only had time to do a couple of things each day, and the reason they didn't go inside their house is because they didn't know about the demolition...
    They did care about it, but they were at a point in their life where it was put in the backburner. Not because they didn't care.

    The way you are chastising OP makes me feel you only care about making them look bad at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    You see part of it.. but thats on me cause I didn't make it clear enough. This case SE can't fix
    We know...that's partially why we're not talking about only OP anymore. We want the ui improved to help people in the future. The demolition mechanic being unclear helps no one.

    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    Yeah pointing at issues like the timers being hidden is all well and good.. but hear me out. That wasn't the problem. He never entered his house in 45 plus 80 days. If he had we wouldn't be here now would we? And you can tell me - he didn't have time- I dunno if I buy that.. it literally only takes a few seconds to load in and go inside. It just looks like he didn't give a damn until it was already gone. and from that point.. how is SE posed to fix that?
    Ah I think I see your actual problem. Your problem isn't that he didn't know about the timer. It's that he had a house and in your eyes he didn't use it enough, and now you think it's selfish of him to complain that it was taken from him.

    So now I wonder, are you a player who is bitter that they don't have a house? Or is it that the bitterness from not having one before never quite went away?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    And you can tell me - he didn't have time- I dunno if I buy that.. it literally only takes a few seconds to load in and go inside. It just looks like he didn't give a damn until it was already gone.
    You're mixing up action with knowledge. It only takes a few seconds to just go inside the house IF you know or suspect there is any reason to do so. OP didn't know about the demolition that SE doesn't provide any notification of. So she was basing it on whether there was time to do actual productive stuff in the house, redesign it or whatever, and whether that's what she wanted to spend her limited time on when she only had a short while to play. People only do the "step in to deactivate the timer" pattern if they know about the timer. That's why the bulk of this thread is about SE's terrible lack of notification.

    You keep saying that SE couldn't do anything about it, but SE was the one who failed to notify her first that there even is housing demolition, and then more importantly, that her house was nearing the point when it would be demolished if she didn't enter. If they'd done that, she could have prevented the loss.

    OP was interested in getting back to the house when her real life issues cleared up and she had time to enjoy it. She just wasn't spending time there when her time was limited and her attention elsewhere. Temporarily not using a feature doesn't mean you've lost interest in it.
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