This Needs to Be Said

[HiroesX81]

This is a video game, if a content is not fun, you can simply don't do it. If you still do, then thank you, you're playing the part of those who like it and encourage SE creating more content than this.

Any feedback is only a minority. SE will trust statistics more than any feedback.

Unless you make a mandatory poll on logging, you can't force people to give you feedback. It's not the devs' fault if so few people use the forum.

I'm not asking you to change your opinion. We can consider a content as valuable asset, even if we don't directly run it. Me, I don't do Savage nor PvP, nor housing, nor Gold Saucer, but I admit that it helps giving some players a goal that dungeon and primals alone wouldn't cover. So, it's good for them. On the other hand, I really doubt enough people play Lords Of Verminion to consider it an important part of the game.

My problem is not that people don't like it, but that the fact that they don't like is valid enough to ask forchanging it completely, damn be those who like it, or even deleting it.

Again, the only thing I'd say you're wrong about is "doing a content you don't like" but that's not specific to Eureka.

I had a full party for light grinding yesterday with no one quareling or complaining in a 143 ppl instance. 2 days ago a small party of 4 in a instance of 142. Week before people spawning nms between top and bottom. Instance was 141. Good luck to all of you and whatever 'feedback' they give.

[TaleraRistain]

Okay it's a few pages back, but re the WHM stuff:

- We told SE before SB that tying lilies to Cure and Cure II was crap and they ended up having to add in more spells because we were right
- We told SE before SB that the lily system was going to be useless and it is. The one reason we had to even pay attention to it, Divine Benison, was removed from being tied to it. Those reductions? Nice if they come up but I don't try to use them in any possible tactical manner because it's pointless.

It wasn't doom and gloom and our class is over for everyone. A lot of us had very solid feedback on things that ended up being changed exactly as we said they would have to change them. Although some of it still hasn't changed, like the lily system being worthless.

As for Eureka, my main worry is that this design is putting a heavy limit on the relevance of the content. Right now, you can still go do your ARR relic. You can even get some things easier because you can get them with tomestones or GC seals. You can still do your anima. Hell, I see PFs up constantly still for anima victory lap runs. But when there are no people to group with in Eureka, how are you going to do your relic from Stormblood? I'm seeing it even now with people so top heavy at 35. There are light parties available but often the train is dying and not many are chaining because it's just not moving the metric.

[SiraLev]

We are not part of the player-base they listen to.

[Aster_E]

Sad, but a very accurate look at what Pyros is becoming.

Indeed, if what we heard about it is true, and that's why I'm no longer touching Eureka at all on principle, except maybe to take a few screenshots (namely in Anemos) if I ever feel inclined to do so down the line.

[rswfire]

they don't care until people stop queuing up for it. but i agree they still need the feedback from the community, i just dont think they'll listen.

Probably more accurately: they don't listen to English players. I really don't believe for a second that anything we say will ever reach the devs.

[AbandonHopeTD]

Yoshida has extreme tunnel vision and nothing will ever change, if something doesn't work they just make a 2.0 version... But worse.

[Annah]

i will not do it. I tried it once for a few hours and said "Nope."

i love relics but this is insane. What's crazy is someone got ALL the weapons from there.. He stated he spent 15 hours a day for weeks. I can't even comprehend that. I mean I work too....and do other things in life

[Oriens]

The problem is they plan content so far in advance (at least 1 year development time until we get to play it) any feedback that requires drastic changes is probably going to be ignored. I'm not making excuses for the dev team-- they need to figure out how to implement quality changes instead of minor fixes or improvements that do not really resolve core issues.

[Maeka]

I think the problem is, is you got all the FFXI fans with Rose Colored Goggles.

They keep saying that we (the playerbase) want stuff like Diadem, Eureka, etc where you just park it and grind mobs for hours to pop something.

To me, Eureka and Diadem seemed like a rehash of Abyssea... and I never really got to partake of Abyssea when i twas current content, but upon going back in at I119 I can tell you that it seems like it was boring as crap. Maybe a notch better than other FFXI endgame, but here's the thing..... FFXIV is not FFXI, nor was it ever meant to be.

But, I suppose, the FFXI fans won't pipe down until we give them a little slice of Eorzea for them. I just wish they hadn't gated the nice fancy glowy weapons behind a mob that comes out once every several hours that needs a gigantic group to take down.

[ximxim]

I am the late bloomer of Eureka and I just hit 35 four days ago in Pagos. Right now it's been exactly 4 days I've been waiting for Louhi to pop to collect the Louhi Ice and I have spent hours in Pagos. It's just mind numbing seriously and not fun at all -.-