We Really Need To Talk About The State And Path Of FFXIV

[Hamada]

Okay so you are arguing something completely different from what anyone was even talking about from the very beginning. You're arguing your own thing. Don't get mad at me for not understanding what you're trying to say. Sigma's post which was the start of this, was about wearing gear incompatible with the wearer's class at early levels. Not people going into SB stuff at ilvl49 and it not being fixed because of what the JP do.


And absolutely no one said your issue with the game wasn't an issue. And I in fact, kept telling you I agreed with you. Repeatedly.

If they are only making changes (or not) because of what the JP do and not ALL the western players of the game as well, especially considering NA is half the players, and then you add EU, it's a massive oversight. By definition

o·ver·sight
ˈōvərˌsīt/Submit
noun
1.
an unintentional failure to notice or do something.

This has been a problem with the NA player base since ARR. You claimed SB fixed it, I was trying to explain why SB did not fix anything in this regard. Also to me, you where trying to imply SE did this SB change to address duty finder cheesing, and I was trying to explain why that change had nothing to do with it. This is very important to understand because it shows the NA player base issue did not impact that change. It does not matter what started what, you said SB fixed something, and I was explaining why SB did not fix anything. it is not an oversight, they are simply ignoring NA player base problems. As far as I know this has been bought up countless times. At this point, I disagree ignoring NA playerbase problems as "unintentional" thus this situation does not fit the word of "oversight"

[Magic-Mal]

This has been a problem with the NA player base since ARR. You claimed SB fixed it, I was trying to explain why SB did not fix anything in this regard.

No I didn't. I did not say SB fixed the issue you have. I said SB fixed the issue with jewelry being for all classes but SB jewelry only. I don't know how clear I have to be. I was never talking about your issue with the gearing because we were apparently never on the same page.

Also to me, you where trying to imply SE did this SB change to address duty finder cheesing, and I was trying to explain why that change had nothing to do with it.

Point to wear I said anything about SE making the change to stop Duty Finder cheesing. I was definitely referring to the issue being players putting on gear incompatible with their job. And I definitely never even had any input as to why they changed it.

This is very important to understand because it shows the NA player base issue did not impact that change. It does not matter what started what, you said SB fixed something, and I was explaining why SB did not fix anything.

What proof do you have that NA had nothing to do with it? What proof do you have that any particular community had something to do with it?

Yes it does matter what post started this because that's what the topic was about?

it is not an oversight, they are simply ignoring NA player base problems. As far as I know this has been bought up countless times. At this point, I disagree ignoring NA playerbase problems as "unintentional" thus this situation does not fit the word of "oversight"

Again, no proof it has anything to do with any playerbase. If they made changes without thinking of NA, then it doesn't have to be because they ignored NA and more likely them making an oversight in planning. Remember the change to 24-man loot?