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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    You're hoping that they can't when they've shown time and time again that they like copying things over instead of redesigning.
    Then explain why they redesigned every job for PvP? They just copied it over in the past (more like left it untouched), but come SB, they completely revamped all of our abilities.

    You can't say they just like to copy things over when this exact system is the very evidence to the contrary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Then explain why they redesigned every job for PvP? They just copied it over in the past (more like left it untouched), but come SB, they completely revamped all of our abilities.

    You can't say they just like to copy things over when this exact system is the very evidence to the contrary.
    You haven't been paying attention this whole expansion pack have you? You're deflecting and shifting the goal posts each and every time, I don't really have to explain nothing nor do I have to prove anything to you.

    You just don't want to admit that you might be wrong, plain and simple really.

    Clearly, we're not playing the same expansion pack lately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    You haven't been paying attention this whole expansion pack have you? You're deflecting and shifting the goal posts each and every time, I don't really have to explain nothing nor do I have to prove anything to you.

    You just don't want to admit that you might be wrong, plain and simple really.

    Clearly, we're not playing the same expansion pack lately.
    You say I'm deflecting as you refuse to answer the question. Nice.

    That they have copied things in the past doesn't mean they copy things in every instance. I don't need to admit I might be wrong when the very thing I said is proof of what I said.

    I'm perfectly willing to admit when I'm wrong. I conceded to that person earlier that there is no answer to their concerns. Their concerns are valid. It's a consequence of the change I'd like to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    You say I'm deflecting as you refuse to answer the question. Nice.
    I have the option to refuse to answer you if the answer is actually very obvious. I shouldn't have to spell things out. I don't hold people's hands on the forum.

    That they have copied things in the past doesn't mean they copy things in every instance.
    I remember when I used to say these things.

    I don't need to admit I might be wrong when the very thing I said is proof of what I said.
    That's not how it works.

    I'm perfectly willing to admit when I'm wrong. I conceded to that person earlier that there is no answer to their concerns. Their concerns are valid. It's a consequence of the change I'd like to see.
    Says the person who claimed that they knew nothing about MNK in PvE/PvP, proceeded to insult me because I knew what I was talking about with MNK, tried to put One Ilm Punch in a consolidation theory, and then claimed that they were still right about what they said even though they weren't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    Says the person who claimed that they knew nothing about MNK in PvE/PvP, proceeded to insult me because I knew what I was talking about with MNK, tried to put One Ilm Punch in a consolidation theory, and then claimed that they were still right about what they said even though they weren't.
    And you never answered what button it should change into that's more important. You have 3 buttons that change into 9 different combo abilities. If they were to change into 8, what should it change to instead of One Ilm Punch?

    You're gaining One Ilm Punch on your hotbar at no extra cost. It doesn't matter if it's trash or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    And you never answered what button it should change into that's more important. You have 3 buttons that change into 9 different abilities. If they were to change into 8, what should it change to instead of One Ilm Punch?
    Well, if you actually played MNK and did your own research, you'd find that answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    Well, if you actually played MNK and did your own research, you'd find that answer.
    Then I will assume you have no answer or don't want to admit you're wrong. Have a good day, then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    Well, if you actually played MNK and did your own research, you'd find that answer.
    One Ilm Punch is part of the combo on the Raptor part of it. That's a fact and you denying it is absurd.

    Monk with consolidated combo buttons would have:

    Button 1: Bootshine, True Strike, Demolish. The three "rear bonus" skills.
    Button 2: Dragon Kick, Twin Snakes, Snap Punch. The "flank" skills.
    Button 3: Arm of the Destroyer, One Ilm Punch, Rockbreaker. The "special" skills that have no positionals.

    In other words, the three buttons will be:
    Opo-Opo and without form: Bootshine, Dragon Kick and Arm of the Destroyer.
    Raptor: True Strike, Twin Snakes, One Ilm Punch.
    Coeurl: Demolish, Snap Punch, Rockbreaker.

    There is no way to do it than this, nor is there any reason as to why One Ilm Punch shouldn't be there. It's not used by monks?! And who cares?! It still won't be used by monks. There's no reason why it would need to be used by monks if it's crap. But it DOES exist and it IS optional part of a combo so it obviously would be consolidated.
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