Removing Gender-locked Poses

[Fredco191]

Yes. the female pose for Dark Knight looks better than the male one in my opinion.

[Iscah]

female Dragoons get...well, you hold your spear to the side and the spear may or may not touch the ground.

I like the female dragoon pose. It’s a good ‘dramatic pose’.

And I’ve never seen the spear not touch the ground. Maybe there are issues with different height characters or unusual weapons - I know there’s one you can get that’s more like a club than a lance, not sure what was going on there but I’m guessing it doesn’t play nicely with the idle stance.

[Anarnee]

I have been asking for this since the patch where we got the new idle poses. Makes no sense that because I'm a girl I can't do THE dragoon pose. I hate the stupid pose they gave us girls.

I’ve never seen the spear not touch the ground. Maybe there are issues with different height characters or unusual weapons - I know there’s one you can get that’s more like a club than a lance, not sure what was going on there but I’m guessing it doesn’t play nicely with the idle stance.

It depends on race and the spear. I've seen it happen before, and with some models its worst than others.

[Penthea]

You'll get people who will be opposed to this in order to keep some sort of semblance of gender/race identity.

Just let players establish their own identity. More cosmetic diversity is always a good thing.

[CassandraJean]

i support this! the more idle poses available the better, and i like how most of the male poses are more "casual" than the female ones.

[Novaslayer]

Not goin lie, I didn't even notice that the 2 gender had different idol poses till about a year ago.

Still good luck and all but me personally not really a big deal but good luck non the less.

[Hestzhyen]

Gender locking job poses is a real head-scratcher to me. Why can't chicks do the classic Dragoon pose? Why can't I do the female MNK pose? Just doesn't make sense.

True customization is players choosing how to express themselves from many options. It'd be great if the job pose restrictions were lifted.

[Kirsten_Rev]

I think this would be a reasonable idea. FFXIV has already shredded more or less whatever scraps of immersion once existed within the game world; if we're already allowing bikini-clad 'tanks' in dungeons, why not?

That said, my real preference would be for SE to significantly clamp down on people's freedoms and restore far more uniqueness and immersion to the game world. This would include keeping gender- and job-specific emotes, job- and role-specific gearing options, gender-specific gearing options, and completely eliminating the ability to wear 'universal' (i.e. non-Role) Glamours within instances. I just think SE should be consistent, and as long as they've gone so far down this path - with no signs of a reversal - they may as well go all the way.

Edit / Aside:

True customization is players choosing how to express themselves from many options. It'd be great if the job pose restrictions were lifted.

A couple of notes here, explaining why I don't share the opinions of many in this thread.

Firstly, I think we already do have the ability to express ourselves in many different ways. I think we've had the ability to do so from the very beginning of the game. Just how much is enough is very subjective. I also take issue with the notion of 'true' customization; customization is customization. Whether it's as basic as the options presented to us in the character creator, or a version of FFXIV that offered complete and immediate access to any Glamour, hairstyle, or pose we want, doesn't make the customization more or less 'true'.

Secondly, speaking personally, I prefer more constrained systems. As an example, when I'm getting sick of a particular look and wanting to shake things up with a new Glamour, I get almost immediately overwhelmed by the dizzying array of options presented to me. If there were pages of /pose commands available to me, I'd almost certainly ignore them, simply because it's too much. I realize this is definitely an 'agree to disagree' type of perspective, and I certainly don't begrudge players for advocating - and generally receiving - their desired options within FFXIV. But still.

Finally, from my perspective, the relatively unfettered access to gear options in FFXIV makes achieving a great Glamour, character look, or screenshot, feel significantly less rewarding. They're so easy to come by, and the mechanics are all built-in! If I come across a cute pair of pants that I like, all it takes is a quick trip to the Marketboard to find a complementary top, which is usually quite affordable. Contrast this with FFXI pre-Glamour, where I spent significant amounts of time working for gear that was (a) functional, (b) looked nice, and (c) complemented my other gear pieces. When I finally settled on a look, I felt a strong sense of pride in what I had created, which is something that has almost never happened in XIV.

TL; DR: I don't think there's any 'true' concept of customization, and more options does not always equate to a better experience for people.

[Kidria]

I think some of it also comes from the ideas of 'masculine' vs 'feminine.' In terms of the DRK pose, which seems to be the most brought up example, it appears 'more manly' to have a massive sword slung over the shoulder, held with one hand. It's a display of strength. For a female, having it downward in the ground held with both hands is less aggressive (as in, "manly") and more defensive. To be honest, the male pose (as boring as it seems, and yes it's Cloud's) makes a dark knight look aggressive and dangerous, while the female pose puts emphasis on the 'knightly' or 'defensive' ("Tank") side of it.

That said, the ideas of masculine vs feminine have gone out the door since they gave the bunny suit to males. I don't see a point of gender-locks on job specific poses, as long as it stays to the job.

[Gemina]

I don't really see a reason not to allow these cpose changes, but it also doesn't really matter to me either way. I would actually like to see more cposes added all the way around.

Hairstyles are kind of similar to some of the gear that is locked whereas some of them make sense to have locked, while others don't make any sense at all. For example, a lot of Miqo'te hairstyles are only going to look good on them because their facial structures and ears are taken into account when designing them. However, most-if not all of the race exclusive ponytails can be worn by all races and look just fine.

I think using practicality and aesthetics as determining factors as to what to lock and not have locked complicates things, but the current character customization is reflective of an old school console game rather than a moderate mmo. Updating this and tossing out a free fantasia to everyone would be one helluvan ace SE could use to make everyone say, "THANK YOU SE!!!"