Removing Gender-locked Poses

[TaleraRistain]

Kind of glad I don't play dragoon because I would be salty as hell to not be able to do THE dragoon pose. Also salty at paladin being relegated to Lightning instead of the iconic Cecil.

[PyurBlue]

but racial ones help to inform the identity of that race. Miqo'te, as an example, are modeled off FFXI's Mithra, and from a lore standpoint, they're quite aware of their sexuality, and know how to play off this. For that race, 'sexier' sorts of poses are natural, because they've been raised with them. Elezen (Elvaan from FFXI), on the other hand, have absolutely no such racial awareness of their sexuality in either game. Their racial poses almost certainly shouldn't seem intentionally sexy, because it doesn't fit the racial lore.

Perhaps, but only if you ignore the individual for the sake of racial identity. While you would expect a Miqo'te to use a sexy pose, that doesn't mean all Miqo'te would be using that exact pose all of the time. It would actually be pretty jarring. Personally I also find it bland when a character's race fully defines them. While FF14 isn't necessarily guilty of this when it comes to race poses since we have change pose with a few options, I don't think any of the poses actually draw connections to the race using them for me. I think you need some kind of adherence to realism (in this case, with every race being more or less human, there is no reason why one race couldn't imitate another's idle poses) or you end up breaking immersion.

There are other factors too, like development time. The dev's can't give us an infinite set of poses. However when you just have one or two stances as we do with job quests, it becomes harder not to break the 4th wall.

The impact becomes clear to me in examining the different ways I engage with FFXI and FFXIV (well, engaged* for FFXI). In FFXI, I paid attention to people's looks and races. An unusual look might mean particularly exotic gear I hadn't really come across before, perhaps an option for my own character. A Tarutaru meant a less tanky PLD, but one that was ultimately able to handle a higher level of their own healing. So on and so forth.

In FFXIV? I don't really pay attention to other players at all. I don't really notice their race. I certainly don't give a fig about their Glamour. It's all too jumbled-together, too meaningless for me to care. In requesting more and more options for customization, the people who (presumably) are most interested in putting their identity out into greater Eorzea have ironically caused me to simply not pay any attention at all to the efforts.

Your opinions are your own, but I'm having trouble working out your reasoning. How can't you notice a player's race in FF14? It's probably safe to say that confusing a Roegadyn for a Lalafell is impossible. Miqo, Hyur, and Aura are a little less distinct but have pretty obvious tells. When it comes to gear, FF14 shouldn't be very different from what you describe. An usual look might very well mean exotic gear that you've never come across which may or may not be an option for your character. I would also expect increased variety to give you more of those moments where something catches your eyes. When a class is limited wearing class armor, that immediately negates a large number of visual combinations. Maybe I misunderstood what you're saying?

[Yasmina]

I would like to change to the male pose for this simple reason. I find it very uncomfortable that the spear is in the air!

[LauraAdalena]

I just want to say, I like most of the poses. But here's the thing: why the hell can't I have my character idle like a male WHM instead of the female? Like, I hate it when my white mage holds her cane with both hands and does a cute little pose. I like to think of myself as an extremely aggressive healer, and the male idle pose would get this idea across a lot better than the female one. That being said, a lot of the female ones are absolutely badass, so not allowing guys to see them on their characters just because they're guys is weird to me. I think the fem dragoon pose would look awesome on a male character, even if they just adjusted the pose slightly.

Also, DRKs pose should be universal. That sword-in-the-ground pose I've seen male characters do in MANY games and I think it looks a lot more badass than anything like clouds resting pose he's seen in all the art as having. (might also be because Cloud isn't my favorite character from FF7, who knows. My point still stands).

In fact, what I think they should do is not just allow characters of any sex pose with the two current ones, I think they should add one more option to every job. Make some of them less "idle" and maybe like "practice" make the monks sit there pretending to box like Zell from FF8 (yes I know there's a "spar" emote) or meditate. Make Ninjas sit there doing like practice slices in the air.

[ko_]

I like the female DRG pose... the breathing animation alone makes it worth wild. Like have you SEEN it? So good.