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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhomagus View Post
    Said by a person who is higher level than me by the way.

    Yep. Says the level 70 AST to the Level 60 MNK, who is now leveling an alt on another server to get a feel for what the game was like from the beginning.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhomagus View Post
    No, exact opposite. It's "I want to have access to the abilities I've learned.", "I'd like to showcase this rotation (even if it's not effective at said level) to give the rookie player something to look forwar to.", "I want to practice my endgame rotation and commit it to muscle memory."
    So... you want this change added so you can practice the rotation you don't even have. Am I getting this right? Surely I've crossed a wire somewhere?

    The second quote is also the answer to your trying to pit Penthea and Momomi's comments against one another. If your proposal - as you've stated multiple times - is that it's okay for the higher level abilities to be synced so far down that they don't even do damage, then yes. Yes you would be kicked faster than an Ice Mage because at least an Ice Mage does damage.



    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
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    This is actually a big part of why I hate Eureka. The Relics were my reason for doing roulettes/dungeons in ARR/HW. I've been omni 70 since... I don't know, October? I ain't got no real reason to do these things. I sure as hell ain't sitting in MSQ Roulette.

    The part where low level feels terribly just seals it.
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    Last edited by Darrcyphfeid; 09-13-2018 at 03:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrcyphfeid View Post
    So... you want this change added so you can practice the rotation you don't even have. Am I getting this right? Surely I've crossed a wire somewhere?

    The second quote is also the answer to your trying to pit Penthea and Momomi's comments against one another. If your proposal - as you've stated multiple times - is that it's okay for the higher level abilities to be synced so far down that they don't even do damage, then yes. Yes you would be kicked faster than an Ice Mage because at least an Ice Mage does damage.




    This is actually a big part of why I hate Eureka. The Relics were my reason for doing roulettes/dungeons in ARR/HW. I've been omni 70 since... I don't know, October? I ain't got no real reason to do these things. I sure as hell ain't sitting in MSQ Roulette.

    The part where low level feels terribly just seals it.
    No, your reading right it he wants to use low level dungeons like a practice ground for rotations. Wonder if he knows that hitting abilites that do nothing extends how along it takes to kill a mob. Also somehow showing off High level abilities too low levels who could be 50+ levels away from getting said abilities is inspiration??
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    No, your reading right it he wants to use low level dungeons like a practice ground for rotations.
    Yes. That is not as ridiculous as you are making it sound, and the suggestion only further incentivizes the use of the Duty Roulette. Feel free to completely ignore how veterans are already ignoring the roulette and how that's a problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Wonder if he knows that hitting abilites that do nothing extends how along it takes to kill a mob.
    Again, this is a further nullification of the first proposal of just a normal ability sync, which would leave a veteran slightly more powerful than a person going through the content for the first time. (which is moot because the system as is is already set up that way.) Even if you wanted to nullify the effects of anything above level sync, it doesn't change the fact that faceroll content is faceroll content, and a completely nerfed "ability sync" system would still be more effective than what we have now in regards not only to the dreaded ice mage example but more importantly to enticing veterans to continue to use the Duty Roulette.

    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Also somehow showing off High level abilities too low levels who could be 50+ levels away from getting said abilities is inspiration??
    Yes. How do you not get this? The problem is that you do actually get it. You just don't want to admit it.

    Does SE marketing only push to show the dull aspects of low level grinding in order to entice new players? This post is woosh to the max. Thank you for more filler post content on this thread. Your contributions are greatly appreciated.

    You know what really entices players? Instead of the Dalamud trailer where Bahamut completely wrecked the whole of Eorzea. They should've just shown irl footage of a Carbuncle plushy casting Gust on a Chocobo. But, not actually show any effects, that wouldn't be worth development resources. Just show someone, hand and all, holding a Carbuncle plushy and having him do a backflip. That'd be wicked cool. /s


    Even better? They could show a Marauder outside Limsa Lominsa auto attacking rats for 20 minutes. If people don't want to play the game after that, then good riddance. Who wants people like that infesting the populace...

    said no one ever.

    Yes, seeing high level players is inspiration. I know this. SE knows this. We know this. You know it too, but in the efforts to dissuade people from implementing a system that helps everyone you have to downplay common sense and make it seem like it's detestable. I understand, given the framework the cons argument is rested upon.
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    Last edited by Rhomagus; 09-13-2018 at 05:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhomagus View Post
    Yes. That is not as ridiculous as you are making it sound
    Lol sorry but it totally is.
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