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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    This isn't about materia though. Low level tanks can equip those low level gemstone accessories because they're for "All Classes".

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...m/2c7ec61c874/ This is a problem in leveling roulette.
    Oh THOSE. Yeah the devs need to take action with that as well. They seem to have a big problem with changing anything that isn't the new thing. Tanks up to SB can still wear STR accessories, but also everything else. Again, another oversight by the loveable devs. Or maybe not an oversight. Just didn't care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    Oh THOSE. Yeah the devs need to take action with that as well. They seem to have a big problem with changing anything that isn't the new thing. Tanks up to SB can still wear STR accessories, but also everything else. Again, another oversight by the loveable devs. Or maybe not an oversight. Just didn't care.
    To be fair, I don't think the devs even knew that the theorycrafters would produce what would be BiS stat weights for jobs/particular BiS builds for each job. WARs are highly encouraged to go with a Crit meld, while PLDs are intended to be built with a DH meld, with DRK leaning more towards Crit with some DH, from what I last saw. That may have changed, though - I haven't been around that much since July, so I dunno if that still holds true, or if there were any other changes to what 4.3 tanks should be using now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    To be fair, I don't think the devs even knew that the theorycrafters would produce what would be BiS stat weights for jobs/particular BiS builds for each job. WARs are highly encouraged to go with a Crit meld, while PLDs are intended to be built with a DH meld, with DRK leaning more towards Crit with some DH, from what I last saw. That may have changed, though - I haven't been around that much since July, so I dunno if that still holds true, or if there were any other changes to what 4.3 tanks should be using now.
    Oh they knew. They knew since HW at the very least, when the "STR Tank" craze got big. They figured out the theorycrafted builds with STR and decided to nerf strength to only give half a point of "damage" and added a damage effect to VIT to encourage players to wear VIT jewelry over STR jewelry. They then reverted the change after alot of backlash. Then they nerfed it AGAIN for some reason. And finally, SB rolls up, reverts the change for a 3rd time and they make it so tanks CANT wear DPS jewels at all. Creating Tenacity as the "compromise". Unfortunately, I hear Tenacity is a worthless stat because the effects of the stat are so tiny that you'd need a ridiculous amount of tenacity just to see a difference compared to something like Determination or Direct Hit.

    It's like filling a container with sourdough pretzels(Direct Hit) vs filling it with Cocoa Krispies(Tenacity).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    Oh they knew. They knew since HW at the very least, when the "STR Tank" craze got big. They figured out the theorycrafted builds with STR and decided to nerf strength to only give half a point of "damage" and added a damage effect to VIT to encourage players to wear VIT jewelry over STR jewelry. They then reverted the change after alot of backlash. Then they nerfed it AGAIN for some reason. And finally, SB rolls up, reverts the change for a 3rd time and they make it so tanks CANT wear DPS jewels at all. Creating Tenacity as the "compromise". Unfortunately, I hear Tenacity is a worthless stat.
    Tenacity pretty much is useless for the most part, save for a select few scenarios that really wouldn't be applicable to the playerbase as a whole. Tanks can put on DPS jewels i.e STR, DH, and Crit. As my prior post said, WARs should generally meld for Crit, PLDs should go for DH, and DRK lean towards Crit melds. Unless your talking about other materia, which would be useless for physical based jobs save for a couple of materia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    Oh they knew. They knew since HW at the very least, when the "STR Tank" craze got big. They figured out the theorycrafted builds with STR and decided to nerf strength to only give half a point of "damage" and added a damage effect to VIT to encourage players to wear VIT jewelry over STR jewelry. They then reverted the change after alot of backlash.
    The revert was mostly due to the changes to Weakness/Brink of Death with Stormblood; they no longer affect your Vitality, and instead are penalties to your other stats. They obviously couldn’t just have tank’s damage untouched by Weakness/Brink, so they reverted to STR. On top of the other changes they made.
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