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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    The very vocal players who have been subscribed to the game for years yet have failed to realise that if they dislike the game to a large degree than the best thing to do is take their leave rather than demand that it changes significantly to the point where it would stop appealing to those who do enjoy it for what it is.
    This works both ways though... what if there comes a point in the game that you dislike - which is very likely for all of us given how divisive things have been lately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilyrian View Post
    This works both ways though... what if there comes a point in the game that you dislike - which is very likely for all of us given how divisive things have been lately.
    There's a handful of things about the game that I dislike. I offer constructive feedback where appropriate and if the game ever reaches a point where it lacks many redeeming qualities for me then I will take my leave. Far too many people fool themselves into thinking that they have an obligation to stick around due to the time/money investment that comes with MMO's. I saw it frequently back in WoW. I still have friends who play it four years after I turned my back on it. They have nothing but complaints about the game yet refuse to move on. When WoW stopped appealing to me, meanwhile, I simply took my leave. There's so many other things people could be doing with their lives instead of clinging to something that they no longer enjoy but feel a misguided obligation to commit to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    There's a handful of things about the game that I dislike. I offer constructive feedback where appropriate and if the game ever reaches a point where it lacks many redeeming qualities for me then I will take my leave. Far too many people fool themselves into thinking that they have an obligation to stick around due to the time/money investment that comes with MMO's. I saw it frequently back in WoW. I still have friends who play it four years after I turned my back on it. They have nothing but complaints about the game yet refuse to move on. When WoW stopped appealing to me, meanwhile, I simply took my leave. There's so many other things people could be doing with their lives instead of clinging to something that they no longer enjoy but feel a misguided obligation to commit to.
    I think that's a very good and pragmatic way to approach things - and I do agree.
    But I think that what is lost in translation over the forums sometimes is a genuine passion for something people enjoy, but can't quite articulate.
    Feedback should be encouraged, even if it sometimes gets lost in a few badly written forum rants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilyrian View Post
    This works both ways though... what if there comes a point in the game that you dislike - which is very likely for all of us given how divisive things have been lately.
    You can not like a few things and enjoy the game overall. There are some on here that either don't enjoy the game or just want attention. They threaten to quit, say they dropped subscription, attack people for liking content, attack people for discussing or explaining how to do content, or say they don't like the game or large aspects of the game. It could be different things with different people. It's being dramatic. Even if there were monumental issues with the game/company, that would never help anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    You can not like a few things and enjoy the game overall. There are some on here that either don't enjoy the game or just want attention. They threaten to quit, say they dropped subscription, attack people for liking content, attack people for discussing or explaining how to do content, or say they don't like the game or large aspects of the game. It could be different things with different people. It's being dramatic. Even if there were monumental issues with the game/company, that would never help anyway.
    With a constantly evolving game with an ever shifting direction, their attitude is normal, and we shouldn't be treating it like an act for attention. If the game shifts from a direction you like to a direction you don't like then you obviously complain and ask for the direction to be put back on course. Its less about adding something you don't like but either not adding anything you like (because the amount of stuff they have been adding has been getting smaller) or them changing something you did like (like raiding, or ultimate, or relic, or crafting/gathering). As for people threatening to quit the game, I'll refer you to the quote that always comes up from the other side "Stop complaining, vote with your wallet", isn't that what they are doing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    With a constantly evolving game with an ever shifting direction, their attitude is normal, and we shouldn't be treating it like an act for attention. If the game shifts from a direction you like to a direction you don't like then you obviously complain and ask for the direction to be put back on course. Its less about adding something you don't like but either not adding anything you like (because the amount of stuff they have been adding has been getting smaller) or them changing something you did like (like raiding, or ultimate, or relic, or crafting/gathering). As for people threatening to quit the game, I'll refer you to the quote that always comes up from the other side "Stop complaining, vote with your wallet", isn't that what they are doing?
    The game has been static this entire expansion. They have expanded changes on HW and ARR ideas. The biggest differences are the job gauge system, the new glamour system, and the incoming mannequin system. The real change hasn't happened yet, and I know some people love the game, but do want to see some changes. People threaten to quit or say they quit, but somehow are still around. The responses are not in the interest of changing anything for the better. Counterpoints are now okay with them. Liking content is not okay with them. It's just not acceptable behavior from an adult to go after people for disagreeing.
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