Thread: What do you think was the worst thing this game experienced from 2.0 until now?

The entire Mog Station. Call me old fashioned, but I prefer my MMO's to have one subscription fee AND contain all the content inside the game. Meaning I want to be be able to earn it from actual game play(or as a veteran reward) instead of a fat wallet. Pretty much impossible to find anymore sadly since people have proven they're willing to bend over and take it wallet wide open. Though ffxiv is probably the least offensive on the market right now.

Originally Posted by ElazulHP

The entire Mog Station. Call me old fashioned, but I prefer my MMO's to have one subscription fee AND contain all the content inside the game. Meaning I want to be be able to earn it from actual game play(or as a veteran reward) instead of a fat wallet. Pretty much impossible to find anymore sadly since people have proven they're willing to bend over and take it wallet wide open. Though ffxiv is probably the least offensive on the market right now.

I agree entirely with your statement except the last part.
I would argue that it is by far the worst of the *subscription* MMOs for 'nickel and dimeing' players; the buying of in game basic storage and, most egregiously, the pay-wall that is the new phone APP.
I try not to get bothered by these things anymore and just let people get on with it... but really, watching people accept that APP and its BS is really astounding to me.

Originally Posted by Ilyrian

...the buying of in game basic storage and, most egregiously, the pay-wall that is the new phone APP.

I may be out of touch, so bear with me. How in the world are players filling up and needing more storage? I've played since 1.0 and have always maxed out DoH classes and never once do I fill up my storage. I came close once, but I did 1-2 hours of house cleaning and reverted back to my typical 50% full (not 50% empty) status. Even with gear sets for every DoW class, and the DoH classes, the math just doesn't jive. I've asked around and the only players I know that have maxed out are the ones that hoard every piece of vendor trash they find and they store gear sets they haven't used, either for glamour or raiding, for years. I'm open minded to other reasons though...

Originally Posted by Ilyrian

...that APP and its BS is really astounding to me.

No question on this one. The app is a shame for SE and I'm also astounded that they ever launched it in its current state. It's like the 1.0 version of what should become "An App Reborn."

Originally Posted by K3KW4RCHILD

I may be out of touch, so bear with me. How in the world are players filling up and needing more storage? I've played since 1.0 and have always maxed out DoH classes and never once do I fill up my storage. I came close once, but I did 1-2 hours of house cleaning and reverted back to my typical 50% full (not 50% empty) status. Even with gear sets for every DoW class, and the DoH classes, the math just doesn't jive. I've asked around and the only players I know that have maxed out are the ones that hoard every piece of vendor trash they find and they store gear sets they haven't used, either for glamour or raiding, for years. I'm open minded to other reasons though...

For me it was just not knowing what was valuable and what wasn't, I suppose. I've been playing a little over a year now, I'm a WoW veteran and been playing too many years to count, so I did hit the ground running. But still, I constantly ran at full storage capacity with 2 retainers (I won't spend cash on more - misguided principle, perhaps.)

I just held on to everything as I didn't know what would be useful down the line. I have leveled all jobs and crafters ( and Desynth... yes, I'm a sucker for an experience bar) now and have a much better handle on what I need etc - but there's still a cynical part of me that thinks they have overloaded the game with items to nudge players into the paid storage options. The HQ versions add to this line of thinking... but that is just my old man paranoia and I don't want to encourage others to follow me in this >.<

For me it's just the point that we shouldn't have to pay for anything in game - I begrudgingly concede that glamour stuff is going to happen, and they do do a very good job of it and it makes people happy so I can roll with that. But there's an old-school part of me that it still doesn't sit well with.

Originally Posted by Lambdafish

Adding unsync to the game. ... Not saying its bad in theory, it does have some good points, but the way it is implemented is really poor.

Yup, this here.


Close runner-up is the Mog Station. Even overlooking the pricetags and the part where XIV is a subscription MMO with paid client/expansions, I cannot get with selling seasonal event items on there the following year instead of them being available again during subsequent events of the same name/type. I also echo the sentiment that character-related stuff should be rewards from in-game quests/content, like there's absolutely no reason Edda's attire should be on the Mog Station instead of being rewards for PotD. Don't even get me started on that tattered Hildibrand set nor the Heavensward garb.

Following that up, all the minions/mounts/orchestrion rolls packaged into physical merchandise. If they want to make that stuff (the physical merch) available to fans, that's great. Adding in the "bonuses" is a bit much for the same reason as above.

Originally Posted by K3KW4RCHILD

I may be out of touch, so bear with me. How in the world are players filling up and needing more storage?

You may or may not see this, but for me:

lv50 gear = 124 slots (Ironworks + Dreadwyrm) [Retainer]
lv57 gear = 60 slots (Halonic + 5 crafted rings) [Retainer]
lv60 gear = 144 slots (Shire + Alexandrian + Proto-Ultima) [Retainer]
lv67 gear = 60 slots (Yanxian + 5 crafted rings) [Retainer]
lv70 gear = 107 slots (AF3 + accessories) [Armory Chest]
Glamour gear/items = ~50 slots [Retainer]
Relic weapons = 23/13 slots [Retainer/Armory Chest]

Total = ~463 slots taken on Retainers (due to layout; don't have all of the raid gear yet, particularly the Alexandrian stuff since I've yet to bother entering A12S)

Purged lv30~49 gear when RDM and SAM released at lv50, would do the same with lv50+57 if 5.0's jobs start at a higher level. Was a hell of a mess in HW when I was leveling everything through to 60; one of the primary motivators was so there would be less inventory clutter. Don't really need all of it, in particular 3 of each accessory type in the lv60 bracket, but I care enough to swap stats so I feel this should be more or less the minimum available for free. Doesn't factor in things like my tacklebox (Chocobo Saddle), foods/potions, and other miscellaneous items such as stockpiled materia (G5/G6 only). I don't carry or hoard crafting/gathering materials on my character; that's what the FC chest and an alt are for.

I compromised and put the bulk of leveling gear into retainers #3 and #4 so I would only have to pay for them in the first ~2 1/2 months of expansion launch, but that's still not really ideal. More ideal than bothering with Tomestones and upgrades again, though.

I feel like there's been an increased focus on buying things to have in-game rather than unlocking them. Like, a $100 emote (or however much those statues cost) feels a bit much, not to mention the plethora of minions, mounts, emotes, and glamour that have been going up instead of into dungeons or Veteran Rewards or something similar.

Why can I get Ifrit and Co.'s mounts from their Extreme Trials, but Good King Moogle Mog and Phoenix's have to come from Mogstation?

Originally Posted by Ruf

Personally, I think the forced cutscenes on Praetorium & Castrum Meridianum MSQ dutys is the worst thing this game have "seen" since I have started playing.

Hmph, how very glib. And do you believe in Eorzea?

On a more serious note, I don't mind those cutscenes. That's time I can AFK and browse the web.

Eureka.

Never in the history of the game has the relic been made to where you were forced to have only 1 option to obtain.
Never had the relics in the past forced you to devote a large amount of time in a single sitting to gain a small amount of progress towards it.


Specifically Pagos would IMO be the worst.

With Lords of Vermillion being a strong second because IMO that is a waste of resources.

And 3rd being 4.0 DRK changes/nerf

Adding unsync to the game. A lot of problems this game faces, from incentive to run content, to the poor skill level of players, to the devs further decisions to dumb down, devalue and nerf content in this game, can be traced back to the introduction of this feature.

Not saying its bad in theory, it does have some good points, but the way it is implemented is really poor.

Originally Posted by Bluvirus

The biggest disappointment I have is in 4.0. They wrecked the story for me by deciding to change the font size on dialogue making it almost impossible to read on ps4 for me, and I haven't been able to get back into the story since.

Didn't they make it so you can adjust the text size? Or was that PC only?

Originally Posted by Lambdafish

Didn't they make it so you can adjust the text size? Or was that PC only?

they did later on in a patch, but by then I had missed most of the story for 4.0. The only fix till the patch we had was trying to adjust the UI for the text boxes which I tried but didn't really work out for me

Personally I hated that dungeon theme song that was in places like Brayflox hm. I think it is the worst song that ever entered this game. Id rather listen to the dungeon theme for the pre 50 dungeons then ever hear that song again. I know many ppl are gonna put eureka down, but i want ppl to remember that ear grating tune that I had to endure to get Mythic gear bc back then we didn't have as many options to cap tombstones back then and speed running Brayflox hm was the in thing to do and that bloody song meanwhile would assualt your ears.

Delete that song pls.