We Really Need To Talk About The State And Path Of FFXIV

[Legion88]

I think my soul died once or twice. That count?

Only bodies count

True. Personally I think the strawmen need to just be ignored.

That for sure.

So for OP:
I think the game got a little stale. All following points are my own opinion, some may be facts but i don't consider them as facts for this discussion.

First, the ilvl curve got steeper and old gear is even more powerless since back in ARR.
They should shorten the ilvl gaps and pull down the new gear on the same ilvl then the previous gear.
Also the crafted gear should be more available and easier to be made for entry ilvl but a second set of crafted gear just below raid gear for min/maxer to form BiS and with rare materials to craft and a steep requirement level.

Second, the content is to far spread. There is always only on content current, even if i don't like it i have to play it or i have to wait a month to get a chance to get content i like to play.
Also most content seems based upon simple and dull grind. Even dungeons are simple and have less of critical mechanics then before, at least it feels like that and mostly it is more about a difference in appearance then in mechanical solutions.

Third, it seems like there is a missing of midcore content. Yes, there are ExTrials and even the lower levels of Savage but it either learning and farming till you have weapons + mount or just a weekly thing, nothing really lasting or rewarding for midcoreplayers like myself.

Fourth, the textures of this game are...old...i think is the right word, they are not really pleasing, especially if you compare older gear with newer gear and it seams the textures got lower in quality.

Fifth, the job synergy within the jobs is really hard missing while leveling. The jobs are playing only really well at max level or with special key skills in the middle of the 60s. The feeling is just off on some jobs more then on others.
I think the jobs should get a complete reconstruction to make the leveling more smooth and cut out this spanns when they feel off or even worse just incomplete.

my 2 cent on the state of FFXIV.

[Delily]

I think of all the FFXI players saying stuff like "I played XI for 13 years"

/10character

[Ilan]

If i remember some of the relics even weren't BiS anyways...

You remember completly wrong. Relics were BiS because you could choose which stats you add....

[Mahrze]

They could have just stuck with the job gear and let the upgrades increase their gear rating further then Amenos did. It would be so simple.

But they do plan to do that in the next stage... so because armor is at 350/370 even though its safe penta... its bad?

[Kazgrel]

If only I could bottle all the density found in this thread...oh crap a black hole - *YOINK*

[HyoMinPark]

I’m a bit late to this party but...

No, at that time you were doing relics just to do something, and anyone who seriously did them really didn't need them or care about BiS. If i remember some of the relics even weren't BiS anyways; they were subject to the same weird stat pool SE lieks to give casual gear.

The i240 relic step allowed you customize your stats on your relic however you would like, making them automatic BiS once they hit the i275 step because they could have the stats that best fit your job—I remember my BRD bow was Crit/Accuracy: because Crit scaled the best on my job, and because I put Acc in there to avoid having to meld it. And you could even go back afterwards and reallocate them as you pleased in case you found better builds or another preference, so long as you had the materials (Umbrites & Crystal Sands) to do so. Since you claim to have done 7 HW relics, you should know this.

Now on to a less polite response to something else you said.

And no offense, raiders are just people who bang their heads against single fights for weeks to months, a lot of you are even LESS skilled than casual players because we dont need parsers, zoomhacks or act triggers to play a videogame.

“No offense,” my butt.

I’m really not in the mood for comments like this. Your raider bias is showing again, Riyah. You hate everything about us, from our content to who we are as a person even though you don’t even know us, so any and all of your judgements are going to be clouded by your bias. Why don’t you take a couple seats and stop being so presumptuous about people you don’t even know? I get really tired of being lumped into your anti-raider generalizations.

I am a raider. What right do you have to question my skill? Considering you have never played with me, nor seen me play, nor even spoke to me on any sort of level that would give you insight into my own knowledge about a job I play (you’ve never spoken with me outside of the threads on this forum), I would appreciate it if you would stop assuming that I’m a “lesser skilled” player. Especially since I don’t need to use any of the tools you have listed: I don’t need a parser to clear, I don’t need triggers to clear, and I don’t need a zoomhack to clear. I’ve cleared hard content with none of those even present. Shocking, isn’t it. Get off of your high horse.

I don’t ever want to hear you say that raiders are the toxic ones after you make comments like the one above. Who’s being “toxic” here, Riyah? It certainly isn’t me, the raider, I’ll tell you that.

I don't need to really argue any more. I said something myself that needs to be proven, more than what you said, so I have to prove it. You're welcome to referee. I won't derail the thread any further, since the thing that got me heated was your "someone who never sets foot in a raid" is what set me off, and i should apologize for getting heated over that.

Why don’t you apologize for the giant ad hominem you gave an entire subset of players in this game? I feel that would be more suitable compared to just saying you’re sorry you got heated. Or are you standing by what you said: that people whom you haven’t even played with, much less don’t even know, are lesser skilled just because you say so?

[Mahrze]

If only I could bottle all the density found in this thread...oh crap a black hole - *YOINK*

But I want a quasar dammit! - *YOINK*

[Sovasin]

Anyway, what I really don’t like and it’s really disappointing for me (try to explain in little words) is:
Every patch released the gap between new/youngest/ fresh 70s players and expert players decrease instead of increase, by saying that I mean now all players reaching lvl 70 with the mendacities uncapped will the able to from 290 to 360, spam Ridorana few times and one they get 370 can jump right away in the new Savage raids.I mean that’s totally unfair for players that are in game since much longer and did all the way to reach a certain level. I started with 290 and progress little by little to 330/340, then 350 and at last 360/370. Probably that happens for a matter of making money and they make progression not to long or difficult but still is unfair that new players got their life in game simplified.
Long story short they should stop uncapping currencies every even patch.

Telling you guys this coming tier progressing in savage raids from pugs will be 10 time worst!! Colonies of noobs with no experience will start to land in the new Alphascape Savage with 370 gears and no enough knowledge about savage our their own class.

I think it's unfair that you started at 290. The devs should cap poetics again so you have to start from i90, slowly grind up to ironworks gear, augment it, and clear every single 24man and raid tier since heavensward, getting the BiS for each raid tier before you are allowed to gear up further. It's not fair that people can jump straight to 290 when I had to spend 20 minutes a day doing expert roulette for the past 2 years to get to my epic current ilvl of 370. This coming tier will be the worst one yet because of players jumping into alphascape without having experienced Nael HM, T9 divebombs and Limit Cut.

/s

[KisaiTenshi]

But anyone on primal. I'm sorry for heated rhetoric, but I don't like people calling others embarassments, and i'm happy to prove that even as a casual, i can understand and do raids just as good as the lot of you.

Have you found six other people who are willing to do the hard raids without tools?

[RiyahArp]

Have you found six other people who are willing to do the hard raids without tools?

can look for them, probably should just pf it with that condition.