Suggestion: For Rising 2019

[Jijifli]

More customisation options for sure, such as tattoo options. Legacy tattoo specifically though, HELL NO. And I'm not even a legacy player. If they make that available, I might just quit because it's just a major kick in the teeth to everyone who supported the original game. Even the white raven earrings are rubbing me the wrong way.

But all the legacy tattoo requirement was, was you needed to have a character. Not even a sub. I even looked up and people were saying that they got it without paying for more than the game. They don't get access to the legacy discount.

So even people that bought the game, hated it, and quit for the whole time got the tattoo. They deserve it, but I can't have one?

Yes, because they will have subbed and bought the game to make the character in the first place. Even if they hated it, by paying and subbing even for a bit, they were supporting the original game. Something you and I didn't do. It's that simple.

Sorry, gonna put it up here because I dunno how close to 10 post limit I'm at.

But did the game have a free trial? If yes, then I could'a gotten it then without paying a cent. And if no, just put it on mog station for the amount the game was then. XD Easy Peasy.

[Paladinleeds]

But all the legacy tattoo requirement was, was you needed to have a character. Not even a sub. I even looked up and people were saying that they got it without paying for more than the game. They don't get access to the legacy discount.

So even people that bought the game, hated it, and quit for the whole time got the tattoo. They deserve it, but I can't have one?

Yes, because they will have subbed and bought the game to make the character in the first place. Even if they hated it, by paying and subbing even for a bit, they were supporting the original game. Something you and I didn't do. It's that simple.

Sorry, gonna put it up here because I dunno how close to 10 post limit I'm at.

But did the game have a free trial? If yes, then I could'a gotten it then without paying a cent. And if no, just put it on mog station for the amount the game was then. XD Easy Peasy.

Or... we can let the legacy players keep it. From what I understand, it didn't have a free trial. As for putting it on the mog station for the amount the game was then... no. Because again that devalues those who actually paid for the game back then. Sorry, but I will NOT agree to it being made available under ANY circumstances. And if they do so, I will legitimately consider up and quitting. In my eyes, they're already spitting on the legacy players (of which I shall repeat, I am not one) by making the white raven earrings available. I've already said I'm up for adding tattoos as customisation options. Just ANYTHING except the legacy tattoo. My position will not change on this no matter what you say.

[Jijifli]

Let's clear this up. I am a Legacy player and would be seriously disappointed if SE ever gave the tattoo to none Legacy players. Without us, there would be no game, we did have to pay and sub for a period which from memory was 3 months out of the last six before the end of 1.0 (could be slightly off) as I paid for the duration that they charged us, I'm not 100% sure and I have friends who played in 1.0 and unsubbed before the end and did not get Legacy account status. If you didn't pay for the qualifying period you didn't get legacy status.

But the Tattoo was never tied to a subscription. You only needed a character. Never needed a sub. The reduced sub cost was from paying for 90 days.

I did join in Late ARR, but I haven't dropped my sub since I came here. Are you saying the guy who bought the game, didn't like it, and quit and never did anything else supported the game more than I have? Sure it wasn't dying when I came in, but this other person didn't exactly support it either, but because they made a character then they'd get the tattoo while I'm left in the dust.

Just seems unfair to me. Looking it up, someone said they played to level 20 and paid for 1 month. This was their stuff.

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- I have no 9.99 montly fee
- I have no Legacy Titles
- I have no Legacy Mount

+ I do have Legacy Tattoo
+ I do have Onion Helm
+ I did get free Fantasia
+ I did keep my original gear from 1.0 apparently when ARR launched
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So for this person's case, they didn't pay 90 days, because they don't even get the cheap sub. But they still got the tattoo. And other things too.

[rainichan]

Because I dropped $$$ for the collector's edition.

Because I actually paid for the game because I wanted to play it.

That's why we have it and non-1.0 players don't.

You don't look at someone's Medal of Honour and say "but I want one too!" if you didn't earn it by answering the call to arms. The difference between the tat and the earrings is one was a thank you for at leasy buying the game and trying it along with the legacy bird and sub discount if you subbed during their actual sub time (the rest was a very extended free 30 days after starting an account) and the earrings were just a quest reward if you somehow got lucky to even do and finish a fight. *Items* are things that shouldn't be locked behind the "exclusive" banner (I was miffed over the moogle suit for 10 minutes before I got over it because it doesn't effin' matter, let people get stuff like that) forever. But things like the tat, that isn't an item but something actually special?

No.

There are a few gear sets that give the illusion of a tattoo. Use those if you want one so bad.

[Mahrze]

You don't look at someone's Medal of Honour and say "but I want one too!"

So, if I ask for the item as a replica? Since that was the "acceptable" solution for the earrings then what?

I want a "replica 1.0 legacy tattoo" option in the character creator, regardless of how or when I make it. It's a 'replica' therefor not as 'important' as a 'genuine'. (silly to use the terms on digital stuff but w/e) So fair game, right?

[Fawkes]

So, if I ask for the item as a replica? Since that was the "acceptable" solution for the earrings then what?

I want a "replica 1.0 legacy tattoo" option in the character creator, regardless of how or when I make it. It's a 'replica' therefor not as 'important' as a 'genuine'. (silly to use the terms on digital stuff but w/e) So fair game, right?

Unlike an item there's no way for someone to examine you and see if you have the real thing or the replica, so no it's not the same.

[Mahrze]

Unlike an item there's no way for someone to examine you and see if you have the real thing or the replica, so no it's not the same.

And why would you have to examine me? if they release it as such in the charcreator then its simply a "glamour" option. Your "not the same" still holds no weight.

[Elkanah]

Now, Spirits Within

How dare you bring up that filth! D:<

[Coombah]

Nope, the forums have become just as bad as the events lately.

[Jijifli]

The tattoo is actually only given to those who have Legacy accounts and do pay the lower sub, have the chocobo etc. Just because they said they paid for a month doesn't mean they did. I quote the following from my old email - Users with service accounts that paid for at least 90 cumulative days of subscription for the original version of FFXIV between January 6, 2012 and suspension of 1.0's billing services on September 29, 2012 will become eligible for Legacy benefits

They specifically said they don't get the cheaper sub, but still got the tattoo.

So are you saying Square then didn't give him a cheaper sub when he should have? That's concerning.