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    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    But that promise as the way the system we have stands is impossible to keep. The timer like it or not is a must as without it noone would have a house who didn't sign into the game at the beginning. And that's a way more unfair system then the timer. Fact is with what we have the system we got is the best and most fair you can make it. You want to keep your house, you must use it. Otherwise it's poof and someone else will use it.
    No, the most fair system would be you keep the house until your sub expires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    No, the most fair system would be you keep the house until your sub expires.
    Strangely enough, that would be even more "extortionate" (for a lack of a better word) than the current system, which allows you to unsub for a month (31 days) and get back without much issue (timer is 45 days).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    ...the current system, which allows you to unsub for a month (31 days) and get back without much issue (timer is 45 days).
    Indeed, or alternately lets you unsub for 44 days if you plan for it and make sure you go into your house on the last day before your sub expires. That’s more time off than on if you want to minimise your subscription cost that way. You’d only actually need to subscribe for five months in a year instead of twelve, if keeping your house is the only concern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    No, the most fair system would be you keep the house until your sub expires.
    Not with the system we have now sadly D: If it was that way then no new players would be able to get a house cause players would just hold them all. Honestly the only answer is to make a new system but who knows what hang ups with the code they have. I get people hate the current system, but unless they change it this is what we got, and unless I'm missing something the timer is the most fair way. I'm not saying it's the best, but with the way the system is with the limit housing, the timer is the best we can ask for.. with this system. Under anything else yeah this would be horrible but this is the system we have.
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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    Not with the system we have now sadly D: If it was that way then no new players would be able to get a house cause players would just hold them all.
    No, players wouldn't be able to hold them. If a player quits, and their sub expires, their house would expire too. Perhaps a 10 to 15 day leeway or so, because yes, Zojha brings up a point that in a few ways, housing by sub would be even more restrictive. There are several counts of players at this point who maintain their sub even when they can't log in. Recently there was a post about somebody who came out of the hospital to find their house was gone, despite that they kept their subscription going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    No, players wouldn't be able to hold them. If a player quits, and their sub expires, their house would expire too. Perhaps a 10 to 15 day leeway or so, because yes, Zojha brings up a point that in a few ways, housing by sub would be even more restrictive. There are several counts of players at this point who maintain their sub even when they can't log in. Recently there was a post about somebody who came out of the hospital to find their house was gone, despite that they kept their subscription going.
    I dont think I get it honestly :c as the timer is there so people can't hold the houses unfairly. If I'm missing something please explain. :c
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    No, the most fair system would be you keep the house until your sub expires.
    But only if there is enough time to still take a break and not pay sub. Heck make it two months without a sub and it would be a much better system right now. (My wish is still that we would get private instance houses so that I could switch one house over to that) Because its easier to just pay a sub from everywhere (or tell someone to pay it for you while you cant do it at the moment) then having to pay sub and going into the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    I dont think I get it honestly :c as the timer is there so people can't hold the houses unfairly. If I'm missing something please explain. :c
    Timer would still be there but only together with the sub and without the going into the game thing. So for example if you know you go on a vacation or business trip that might take you more than 45 days you now would be in a bad place if you dont have access to the game somehow. If you for example play it on PS4 but cant take the console with you, you would need to buy the game for a laptop or tell someone your log in data to log in for you. With only the sub you can just do the 180 sub and be done with it. No need for the game or for other people to log into this. SE would still get the money out of this because people would still be force to sub but it would make it easier for those of us that own houses and simply are not able to play it or just dont want to play it for a time. And for those that argue that people that cant even visit a house every 45 days should not have one: What is the line were someone deserves it or not? What if the person that would lose it under the system right now (because of a lengthy trip or sickness) used the houses every day until that happened? Is it fair that they lose it? What if those others that keep theirs because they play constantly use it less, because they are only going in there once a week? Do they deserve it more?
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    Last edited by Alleo; 08-27-2018 at 03:36 AM.
    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.