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  1. #1
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    MetalSnakeXI1's Avatar
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    Should I switch to tank or stay as DPS?

    The reason I'm asking for advice for this is one reason:Queue times.

    I've been a dragoon for 3 months now since I started playing and up until post game....the queue times weren't too bad....until the Coils of Bahamut Raids

    As a DPS,it takes,no joke,over an hour to assemble a full party and sometimes I can't even manage to find a party after this time.

    But when I invited a friend of mine who's a tank.....it took less than a minute.

    I know tanks are on much more demand than DPS which is why I'm considering to fully switch to tank once I start Heavensward and get the Dark Knight class
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    King Canadane
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    Well for starters, Coil of Bahamut isn't current tier raids, it's rather old. You may have better luck using Party Finder instead of Duty Finder for these.
    But at the same time, yes Tanks are in demand for a reason. You should play one. I do and the feeling is fantastic.

    It's the only role type that makes me feel alive anymore.
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    Willig Rowde
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    I switched to tank main shortly before the release of SB primarily because I anticipated the DPS queue times I experienced in HW (main'd DRG in ARR and BLM in HW) would only bloat further with the addition of RDM and SAM in SB.

    I also started leveling my alt characters again, and for the sake of convenience... I'm leveling them all as Tanks and Healers. Almost always get instant queues.

    I have all jobs at 70 on my main though, which I primarily level'd via side activities and daily roulettes. Things like BST Tribes and FATEs can be completed while waiting on queues. An additional incentive to play a Tank to quickly get to the 70 cap is that any other job level'd after that will receive the armory exp bonus. Which kind of balances out the atrocious queue times on DPS since so much more exp is gained from the activities.
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    Here's the way I see it:

    -If you're short on time on a general basis, even days like weekends and you want to get some weekly things done: queue as tank.

    -If you're short on time but weekly goals are not really your thing: keep playing as dps.

    -If you have time but you're mostly focused on very few activities in the game: keep playing dps

    -If you're short on time and you have only few activities you're focused on: keep playing tank.


    So TL;DR: if you want to accomplish the most group focused activities in the least amount of time as well as complete other goals: tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Well for starters, Coil of Bahamut isn't current tier raids, it's rather old. You may have better luck using Party Finder instead of Duty Finder for these.
    But at the same time, yes Tanks are in demand for a reason. You should play one. I do and the feeling is fantastic.

    It's the only role type that makes me feel alive anymore.
    Well I tried Party Finder for Coil 1 but problem is since it's pretty old 90% of the parties I find play unsync.....I had no choice but to hop in and literally before I even move the rest of the party completed the dungeon while I was in cutscenes

    But yeah,once I get to HW I'm going full Tank from now on
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalSnakeXI1 View Post
    Well I tried Party Finder for Coil 1 but problem is since it's pretty old 90% of the parties I find play unsync.....I had no choice but to hop in and literally before I even move the rest of the party completed the dungeon while I was in cutscenes

    But yeah,once I get to HW I'm going full Tank from now on
    Coil T9 is the one that you're likely never going to get anything but unsync.

    If you enjoy Tanking, then tank. But be aware you'll get a lot of grief from parties expecting a speed run if you can't pull it off. Just ignore them and go at whatever pace is your pace.
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    Don't tank for the sake of queue times. Tank because you enjoy it and you're reasonably good at it.

    You'll hate it very quickly if you're not enjoying yourself and you'll hate it even more if you're taking a lot of verbal abuse from others because you're not good at it (or because they just like being verbally abusive, and tanks and healers tend to be targets since they're the minority in a group).
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Coil T9 is the one that you're likely never going to get anything but unsync.

    If you enjoy Tanking, then tank. But be aware you'll get a lot of grief from parties expecting a speed run if you can't pull it off. Just ignore them and go at whatever pace is your pace.
    To add to this, just use it as motivation to get your gear up to date so you can pull at the expected pace.
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    The short queues are nice, but this shouldn't be the reason why you take on the role. Not if you want to separate yourself from the sheep tanks that likely drove you crazy when you played your DPS jobs.

    Tank mains in their comfort zone are so attuned to their role and enjoy it that they make all the intricacies involved look easy, and likely view it as such. An agro combo, is just an agro combo. But if you ask them why they hardly use it, or why it's looked down on, an elaborate tank can really break down the why/when it is sub optimal.

    There is a reason why tank mains are the minority representing the playerbase. There's a lot of responsibility with this role. Arguably more than the other two, and you will be scrutinized to the gills even in casual content. Something else you may not be used to is your healer following you around like a lost puppy, and constantly staring out you. They are literally your beating heart in content, and you are going to need to keep a good eye on them.

    In short, the quick queues are usually not enough to sustain interest in the tanking role long term. You actually have to find one or more of the jobs interesting and enjoyable to play.
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    Last edited by Gemina; 08-24-2018 at 12:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalSnakeXI1 View Post
    As a DPS,it takes,no joke,over an hour to assemble a full party
    This isn't surprising considering Coils are not current content and they're not in any of the roulettes. However this may change in the future. Coils' counterpart from HW has been added to a roulette so I think it's only a matter of time until Coils will be added as well. If you want to do that content sooner rather than later, as someone else said try to use party finder or assemble your own group. Maybe this will yield better results.

    If doing Coils is the only reason why you considered tanking but you still do enjoy playing dps, then I would say stay as dps. But the beauty of this game is you can pick up any class and switch as much as you like so really you can just do whatever
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