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  1. #11
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    Alrin's Avatar
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    Alrin Kireen
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Don't tank for the sake of queue times. Tank because you enjoy it and you're reasonably good at it.

    You'll hate it very quickly if you're not enjoying yourself and you'll hate it even more if you're taking a lot of verbal abuse from others because you're not good at it (or because they just like being verbally abusive, and tanks and healers tend to be targets since they're the minority in a group).
    Listen to Jojoya ^^ I encourage you to try tanking. You may find it fun and short que times are plus. But it is only plus. It shouldnt be main reason for playing tank. You may find it to stressful and pushing yourself to play it will only make you hate the role and maybe even the game.
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    In darkness, in cold, in the midst of winter where nothing walks the world but death and fear let the brave rejoice: I call the light.
    Out of darkness, light. Ouf of silence, song. Ouf of the sun´s death, the birth of each year. Out of cold, fire. Out of death, life. Out of fear, courage to see the day. (Elizabeth Moon - The Deed of Paksenarrion)

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    Elise Hamilton
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Switch to Tank Main xD Just gear up all 3 tanks and play 1 each day. Eureka is great if you want to play DPS .
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  3. #13
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Don't tank for the sake of queue times. Tank because you enjoy it and you're reasonably good at it.

    You'll hate it very quickly if you're not enjoying yourself and you'll hate it even more if you're taking a lot of verbal abuse from others because you're not good at it (or because they just like being verbally abusive, and tanks and healers tend to be targets since they're the minority in a group).
    Exactly. The only reason to play a tank or a healer is if you enjoy it and nothing else.
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    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Only reason you switch to tank is if you enjoy it.

    I played a little bit of PLD back during 2.0 but my main was SMN.

    When DRK was announced for HW I quickly jumped ship, fell in love with the role and job and havent looked back since. The fast queue times are just a perk, but IMO being the tank in Ex trials, raids and 24 man is way more fun than being a dps, but that is just me.

    Long story short, just play what you like the most.
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  5. #15
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    MistakeNot's Avatar
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    This isn't surprising considering Coils are not current content and they're not in any of the roulettes. However this may change in the future. Coils' counterpart from HW has been added to a roulette so I think it's only a matter of time until Coils will be added as well.
    Don't be so sure of that. Some of the turns in Coils (in particular T5, T9, and I suppose T13) are brutal when done synced, and I wouldn't expect a PUG to be able to beat them unless everyone involved know the fights well.

    The story-mode Alexander raid from HW is by comparison a lot easier.
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  6. #16
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
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    Changing to tank will NOT help you with Coil queue times. Seriously. It is old content, and the only times folks bother with it is when they run it unsynced for Wondrous Tales.

    Finding folks willing to run old raids level synced is nearly impossible to do in a short amount of time. If you seriously want to do the old content synced, your best bet is to seek out seven other players with the same interest. It will likely take you days or weeks to assemble your team, but you can use Party Finder to collect members. Get their contact information, get them into a cross-server Linkshell, talk with them on Discord or another voice chat - whatever it takes to make sure you can hold your team together. You will need to arrange days that you can all meet together to practice the content. In short, you'll be forming a static party to challenge the content. It can be difficult enough to form a static to handle current content (stuff with actual worthwhile rewards), so you can expect it to be even worse trying to get together a team for older content.

    Once you have your team together, be aware that the old content is still no joke. This was the hardest of the hard back when it was first introduced to the game - particularly the final raid in each tier - and is still challenging even with the various nerfs (echo, equipment at cap ilvl, various other difficulty nerfs such as ADS's paralyze being cleansable and petrification no longer leading to being one-shot by damage).

    I can understand the desire to want to experience these cool battles as they're MEANT to be played, and there are likely others out there who feel the same way as you do. Find them, befriend them, and team up to take it on. As for becoming a tank, while it will not help you with queues for old raids, having a variety of jobs you can play means that if you DO get your team together, you can be less picky about the jobs THEY play. Being able to play as both tank and DPS means that one of your team slots is flexible - you can accept either a tank or a DPS into the group to fill it, and just play the other role yourself.
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  7. #17
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Don't be so sure of that. Some of the turns in Coils (in particular T5, T9, and I suppose T13) are brutal when done synced, and I wouldn't expect a PUG to be able to beat them unless everyone involved know the fights well.

    The story-mode Alexander raid from HW is by comparison a lot easier.
    I think for the exact reasons you stated is why Coils still isn't part of a roulette yet. I actually expect SE to nerf quite a lot of Coils if they make it part of a roulette.
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  8. #18
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    Desia Demarseille
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    So heres the thing:

    Tanks will always be in higher demand (followed by healers, if the two dont swap in necessity) simply because there are more DPS. So you will almost always have longer queue times on DPS. On rare occasion, DPS queue faster. Now as what was pointed out, if you want to do older content, you should keep in mind thats going to make things longer for DPS.

    If your interest is the cutscenes, go in and clear the content (with whatever class) and then watch the cut scenes at an inn or log book in an FC/house. Cause the thing your going to find is people want to clear that content, not run it synced, and not wait on people to watch the cutscenes. Its a good way to get kicked from a group if your spending time watching cut scenes.
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    Aana Azel
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    Exodus
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    Lancer Lv 50
    As has been said, dont let the cue times for 4yo obsolete content be the deciding factor. That stuff is not a good representation of what its like for day to day stuff. Tank if you want to be more flexible or enjoy it. DPS cues are not very bad at all for level cap content.
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  10. #20
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I think for the exact reasons you stated is why Coils still isn't part of a roulette yet. I actually expect SE to nerf quite a lot of Coils if they make it part of a roulette.
    They'd have to release a "story mode" version of coil to put it into the raid roulette without the enrage failure conditions.
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