White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

[Canadane]

So if I get a relic first week and then it get nerfed i should be enraged.

If you get a Feast Trophy and some years later they give them out for nothing, you'd have every right to complain.
If they start handing out UwU weapons, not replicas but the same weapons, just for an event, you'd be right to be upset.

It's not equivilant to nerfing old content.

[Neophyte]

That's not the point tho. They didn't complete the fights. Why should they have the reward for clearing them?

Again, can I have a free Bahamut Ultimate weapon now, since the fight is outdated, and how skilled a player was when it was relevant doesn't matter now.

I don't mind if you get your Bahamut weapon five years after this game is down or 5 years after they deleted the fight.

2023... I don't think I'd go to the forums and complain.

[Dzian]

C) Legacy players, which already have plenty of exclusives, weren't acting so entitled in the forums. How dare the devs give non-legacy players an item, any item, that we've had as an exclusive for five years.

People are so backwards with this. it's NOT the legacy players that are being entitled at all
it's the people that feel entitled to get the same things legacy players have without meeting the same requirements. and it's not just legacy stuff its generally everything in the game.

As far back as ARR if you smashed coil you got a rather prestigious and exclusive minion and final witness title.. they were rewards of your accomplishments... yet people are apparantly entitled because they wanted those things to remain exclusive but they're only exlcusive because other players are too lazy to get them themselves. if 100% of the population had smashed coil in ARR and got the final witness title those apparantly entitled players wouldnt care. because everyone had done the smae thing they did to get it.

the real entitlement though comes from people who want those same things but are not prepared to put the time or effort into getting them and expect / demand the requirements to change or alternative ways to accquire be added so they can get those items they feel entitled to because someone else has them..

the lack of prestige or value in any of this games rewards is one of the biggest reasons players just arent motivated to step up there game and rise to challenges. and why many players dont stick around very long.

but the entitled players are the ones who want the stuff other players have without meeting the same requirements they met to get it..

its the same with things like ultimate. players who have beaten it and gotten those rewards aren't "entitled" they are accomplished and prestigious.
the entitled people are the ones who expect easier ways to get those rewards in future and destroy the value an prestige associated there with..

I can't really imagine being all that put out by somebody getting the chance at something I had already gotten during a limited time event. It doesn't impact me at all. It doesn't take away from what the thing or the limited event was.

Something being "limited edition" and then released again doesn't really change the sentimental value of the thing. Maybe the monetary value, but we're not really discussing any sort of monetary value attributed to the item in this case. Only that the item now "means less" because it's available from a different event.

The item that legacy players have still has the same meaning to them, it hasn't changed the sentimental value. And new players having access to the item from a different event simply means that the item has an entirely different sentimental value.

If your appreciation is devalued because someone else is able to appreciate something differently, maybe you're attaching too much significance to material goods.

It may not take away the sentiment but it destroys the prestige and accomplishment.

Prestige is not a bad thing. it's one of humanity's biggest motivators. present in every single aspect of human life and progress. from being the guy that lands the hot girl. to the scientists that cures cancer. or the guy that lands a prestigious promotion at work.

it's like someone said earlier in the thread if you give everyone that ran a race a medal. the guy who actually came in first basically gets shafted his medal is worthless because everyones got one

[LyraKuroneko]

What drama?

Just said that because people are making a fuss over this ^^

[Evangelus]

square enix just humiliated the legacy players

good job Naoki Yoshida .... thank to you.

- a legacy player

[Aylis]

If that’s the case, then they should have made the initial quest level 30 like the Moonfire event. I can already hear the complaints that will form about being “barred from the event”. Regardless, it won’t be anywhere near the original difficulty of 1.0 Nael van Darnus, and I still question how much effort will actually go into it. I’d love to be proven wrong, but given the recent track record of content released...

I've thought about this after my last post. yeah maybe they have something planned to remake the old Nael fight or at least something close to par. We don't know and base things on SE's track record for events, A few talky bits and a low level zerg FATE. I'm more or less miffed about the whole thing only because SE went back on a promise that moving forward all items from 1.0 would stay in 1.0. However I can forgive that if the event has something to do with the old fight.

This is a good lesson for SE if that is the case. They do love spoiling rewards for events but keep silent on the events themselves. If it is the case SE needs to learn that it's not always a good idea to spoil certain event rewards. Given their track record with their formulas. It's easy for us all to make certain assumptions that the rewards will all just be free hand outs.

[Kaurhz]

square enix just humiliated the legacy players

good job Naoki Yoshida .... thank to you.

- a legacy player

Celebrating the events that you people participated in is humiliating? Please, they're celebrating an anniversary with items which they probably deem as pretty good history of the game. But again, guess we should celebrate an anniversary with items that aren't part of the history of the game. Granted, putting the items available on Mogstation would be humiliating, but they haven't done that yet. They're celebrating it. Jesus

[LyraKuroneko]

square enix just humiliated the legacy players

good job Naoki Yoshida .... thank to you.

- a legacy player

On the contrary I think it is to let new player know of your glory.

- another legacy player

[Neophyte]

On the contrary I think it is to let new player know of your glory.

- another legacy player

I guess saying one time in say/shout-chat "Oh, I remember this, this was a reward for a real cool and difficult fight back in 1.0" will give more recognition for legacy players than just wearing a not noticeable earring no one knows about.

[Evangelus]

why not make a new aniversary earring? Why choose this one that carries a certain value in the eyes of the legacy?

it's just a test ! Legacy chocobo, and legacy tatoo on the way for soon.