White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

[Canadane]

The way people are acting, I'm going to say... eh, no. 1.0 was Five. Years. Ago. Yes, that was a big accomplishment then. And in ARR being able to clear Binding Coil was a big deal. Now people can buy the set. There are still exclusives that CAN NOT be gotten by people AT ALL. People wigging out over EARRINGS is... plainly... silly. It's childish. If people did the work and got them... nothing about that has changed AT ALL. NEW players can now get a glamour item and that doesn't change a darn thing from a legacy player AT ALL. Pitching a fit about it doesn't change their tat, 'bo, sub cost, or anything else that they get or earned... including their names in credits, either. No one is discrediting legacy players, either. The salt is pointless and petty.

See the thing is, the accomplishment of the fight was never diminished. You can unsync through coil or you can simply buy some of the replica glamour (note it's specifically a replica). The fights aren't worth much these days.
However you can't just stomp your way through the original Nael Deus Darnus. It's unavailable. Meaning the difficulty was as it was, and never got easier. So you can't just say "oh you did this terribly hard thing five youears ago, your trophy is worthless" when they did something few others did.

Yeah it's just an earring. But that earring was never the point of the fight. People didn't even know it existed before going into the fight. An NPC later on after winning slipped it into your inventory without a log notice. The silent nod for the accomplishment. Nobody fought for the earring. Making the earring all that much more special in the end.

Now what if it wasn't an earring? Ultimate fights you cannot unsync. Your ilvl is even synced down to what was the cap at the time of the fight. In five years from now if they start handing out UwU weapons to people during an event, that wouldn't be cool.
What if The Feast seasonal trophies were up for grabs with Wolf Marks down the line? Also not cool. The fact the White Ravens are earrings doesn't change what's happening here.

[Nixxe]

But that earring was never the point of the fight.

All the more reason it shouldn't be an issue. People were doing the content because it was there to do, out of enjoyment for playing the game per se. The reward was just a bonus, and thus it doesn't undercut anyone's motivations for doing the content to hand it out years in the future.

[Canadane]

They are giving earrings to celebrate FFXIV's anniversary, and this upsets you?

Your sub costs less, you have a nifty tattoo on your back, a unicorn horn and an exclusive chocobo.
And be honest, did you even wear those earrings?

The tattoo, horn, and chocobo were unrelated to the earrings. The earrings you had to actually complete a rather hard fight for.
The horn and tattoo was from a storyline event, and the chocobo and sub from the legacy campaign.
So out of all the items, they're giving away the one players had to work for. You didn't gain legacy status from doing this. Non-legacy status players could have earned these (albeit unlikely).
It was a great accomplishment to have down the fight, and their trophy for it has been effectively taken away. If everyone gets a first place trophy, the trophy given to the one who got first place isn't worth all that much.

Am I the only one confused at how taking something that looks exactly like a once exclusive item in every way and slapping "Replica" on it somehow makes it okay for the 1.0 players?

It's literally the same item. Does that mean it's okay for every other exclusive to have a "Replica"? Like contest exclusives and PvP exclusives? Would you guys be okay if I had the legacy tattoo but it was just a "replica"?

I mean, it's not an ideal world but if SE is dead set on re-using old items.... If the replica tattoo was patterned different, sure.
If I ever see someone wearing the White Ravens, and I have from time to time as glamour, I know that this player was something I'd equate to people earning the Ultimate Legend titles today.
If you've glamoured a replica White Raven, well... you don't get that respect. But hey you might look cool.

All the more reason it shouldn't be an issue. People were doing the content because it was there to do, out of enjoyment for playing the game per se. The reward was just a bonus, and thus it doesn't undercut anyone's motivations for doing the content to hand it out years in the future.

No see, I'm feeling the exact opposite way.
People fought hard for nothing but prestige. The fact they got anything at all to show their determination makes it more special.
It's like a war badge. People generally don't complete great military tasks for a ribbon or badge, but getting them doesn't make them any less special. Giving the same badges out to everyone would be a disgrace!

[Mahrze]

People fought hard for nothing but prestige. The fact they got anything at all to show their determination makes it more special.
It's like a war badge. People generally don't complete great military tasks for a ribbon or badge, but getting them doesn't make them any less special. Giving the same badges out to everyone would be a disgrace!

Well, people fought the law, and so far the law(SE) won.

[Nixxe]

No see, I'm feeling the exact opposite way.
People fought hard for nothing but prestige. The fact they got anything at all to show their determination makes it more special.
It's like a war badge. People generally don't complete great military tasks for a ribbon or badge, but getting them doesn't make them any less special. Giving the same badges out to everyone would be a disgrace!

Newsflash: Nobody cares about your feelings.

It seems odd to me too. But I kind of see both sides...I mean, I get that the fight was hard and you want to have something like a souvenir to remember it by. And now they're taking that away which is kind of insinuating (to some people) that your prior experience and love of and devotion to the game doesn't matter. So I get why they're miffed about this. I don't know how much of a community there was during 1.0, but I'd wager that VERY few people stuck it out and not only got those earrings but also still play today. Perhaps, on this five year anniversary of the game, they're giving us all a glimpse of what you legacy players saw and went through -- like "look how far we've come", which is something that everyone can be proud of.

It oftentimes seems like many players want a thing just so they can hold it over others' heads and brag about their skill and/or suffering.

I get why they're miffed about it too. I used to be like that in WoW when Blizzard originally decided nothing would be truly exclusive back in Wrath, but I eventually realized how childish I was being and got over it. As it turns out, the world didn't end and things still felt special to me for precisely the same reason they had before. Others just go to enjoy the cosmetic rewards that I had the privilege of enjoying first and to create and assign their own memories and significance to those things. Their gain was not my loss as I had originally feared it would be.

[Stormfur]

Their gain was not my loss as I had originally feared it would be.

Precisely. Too many people somehow have tied "my worth as a human being" to "my value of items in a video game". I'm waiting for the legacy player who has "GOT THE WHITE RAVEN EARRINGS" as his real-life epitaph.

[Magic-Mal]

If you've glamoured a replica White Raven, well... you don't get that respect. But hey you might look cool.

"Respect", Ha... You may not have seen my ninja edit for that post and that's okay. But let me ask, where is my respect for playing and supporting 2.0, then playing and supporting 3.0, then playing and supporting 4.0?

EDIT: I also understand that it was from a fight and not subbing. That doesn't change all of the other things the we are apparently not allowed to have.

[Canadane]

"Respect", Ha... You may not have seen my ninja edit for that post and that's okay. But let me ask, where is my respect for playing and supporting 2.0, then playing and supporting 3.0, then playing and supporting 4.0?

EDIT: I also understand that it was from a fight and not subbing. That doesn't change all of the other things the we are apparently not allowed to have.

I would imagine it's in the form of all your veteran rewards, achievements, titles, etc.
Like you can't earn specific achievements in the game anymore. The titles associated with them are locked to the players who have done that event.

Sure you may not run around as the "Half-boiled Heroine" but you certainly can. You earned it! (I'm guessing you've done the old Easter seasonal quest here since you've been around so long).
Your accomplishments in 2.0 and beyond are no different than players who have been playing since 1.0, other than it being a mostly dead game at the time.

[Tint]

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I want your Garlond Goggles! Why can't we have them instead of some boring earrings? :O

[Gospel]

I want your Garlond Goggles! Why can't we have them instead of some boring earrings? :O

You actually can if you can find an old copy of 1.0 with the code in it. Even though it says it's expired if you punch it in enough times mogstation will eventually accept it. This also works with expired minion codes.