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  1. #11
    Player RiyahArp's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    I thought this was gonna be a complaint on how the glasses with /visor clip with almost every single hairstyle. What's wrong with jumping puzzles?
    The game uses fixed jumping, i.e. your jumps have a set distance and can't be altered or adjusted in midair. Kind of like the prinny games for PSP. You have a "tap" jump which is one distance and you do by tapping plus jumping, and a long jump you hold and jump. But because you can't adjust jumps in midair, the difficulty is that you overshoot your target a lot. And have to redo a lot of jumping to get back up.

    Plus they like to make platforms a lot smaller in visual appearance then they really are. So you have to ignore them, a lot of times you need to land on what is empty air due to the fixed jump.

    I did it, i just chuckled because its so SE. You either can deal with jumping puzzles or dislike them, they really aren't all that likable.
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    Last edited by RiyahArp; 08-14-2018 at 02:47 AM.

  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stellafreyja View Post
    They'd never do that in a seasonal event. If you missed it, you'd either have to wait until next year or look up videos on YouTube. Not to mention, it'd be pretty difficult to do something like that every event. You'd eventually run out of NPCs. Things like that would be better put into an expansion, like how you meet Arenvald, who specifically brings up how you helped him.
    It wouldnt be required for every event. Something different each time. Hence my point of "this is all they could think of"

    There are ideas they could use, with things already in the game. A bit of thought and creativity is all thats required. Im sorry, but "jump around here and there" just doesnt cut it. Im glad ppl enjoy the puzzle element, if it were a PART of a creativly thought out event, Id be ok with it.

    I feel like Gaius (the players) is speaking to Garuda (SE) here "I say again, is that all"
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    The game uses fixed jumping, i.e. your jumps have a set distance and can't be altered or adjusted in midair. Kind of like the prinny games for PSP.
    There are multiple distances of jumps based on whether you were walking/running before and how long. While the distance can't be adjusted midair, the direction can.

    Not that I like ff14 jumping, but the idea that it's 100% set is just incorrect.

    Anyway,

    Quote Originally Posted by Pyroxene View Post
    Jump puzzles? this is the best they could think of? Now Im certain theyre completely out of ideas
    People have asked in various forums for more jump puzzles. It's not laziness to listen to what people ask for, especially for something like moonfire faire which is always a very small event that's supposed to be a giveaway of easy prizes (like emotes).. They ask for it so much that 4.4 will even come with a new MGP event that's going to be a jump puzzle. Tell people, especially in JP, to stop asking for jump puzzles
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    Last edited by Squintina; 08-14-2018 at 02:52 AM.
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  4. #14
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    Since you complaint about them being unoriginal by adding a jump puzzle, I took the liberty to look at your ideas...

    Quote Originally Posted by Pyroxene View Post
    Theres plenty of ideas floating around. How about remembering eorzea, Finding certain npcs that were pivotal to you starting out
    Sounds a bit like that optional quest at the end of HW that sended you back to talk to a few NPCs that you met during HWs... I also kinda remember a lot of reminiscent quests of one kind or the other... Both as events and as normal quests aswell.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pyroxene View Post
    , or side story of a few npc adventurers youve met along the way. Maybe training new adventurers in fates
    Sounds a bit like Squads to me... or doing FATEs with your chocobo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pyroxene View Post
    get some more of that active time function goin on.
    Are we talking about mashing one button in content like Susano and Shinryu or about those "aim at this"-minigame? In the later case: There are so many quests, even repetable ones, that use that feature now... also: last years summer-event made use of it aswell, in the form of, ehm, keeping watch at the beach.


    Quote Originally Posted by Pyroxene View Post
    Something that requires the player to think, or something that just shows they put more than 5minutes thought into it.
    How does any of what you suggested requires the player to really think?
    Its supposed to be a fun, little event, not re-invent the game - and I take anything over FATEs (even if done with NPCs) every day.
    For some of your suggestions I honestly cant even say how they fit the general idea/spirit of the event - its a beach party at Costa del Sol, why would we wander around Eorzea to remember our old battles or comrades? Why would we be at the beach in swimwear to train new adventures (unless we're training them in staying away from that lalafell and how to consume lots and lots of booze)?
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  5. #15
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    I'm personally having a lot of fun. I don't think it's the devs' fault that some people don't know how to enjoy seasonal events ;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyroxene View Post
    Finding certain npcs that were pivotal to you starting out, or side story of a few npc adventurers youve met along the way.
    We got that for Easter! The Gridanian characters anyway. I’m certainly hoping we get something similar for the other cities at some point.

    As for this particular event, the jumping puzzle is fine. It certainly beats traveling halfway across the country for Yet Another Inspirational Story about characters you’ve just met and probably won’t see again. And we still got one of those anyway.

    When I did it earlier, a lot of people were running beyond the target NPC and onto an additional optional puzzle - right up to the top of the tower, I think. So yes, unless I missed an extra quest somewhere, people are enjoying this event and doing it for fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Since you complaint about them being unoriginal by adding a jump puzzle, I took the liberty to look at your ideas...


    Sounds a bit like that optional quest at the end of HW that sended you back to talk to a few NPCs that you met during HWs... I also kinda remember a lot of reminiscent quests of one kind or the other... Both as events and as normal quests aswell.


    Sounds a bit like Squads to me... or doing FATEs with your chocobo.


    Are we talking about mashing one button in content like Susano and Shinryu or about those "aim at this"-minigame? In the later case: There are so many quests, even repetable ones, that use that feature now... also: last years summer-event made use of it aswell, in the form of, ehm, keeping watch at the beach.



    How does any of what you suggested requires the player to really think?
    Its supposed to be a fun, little event, not re-invent the game - and I take anything over FATEs (even if done with NPCs) every day.
    For some of your suggestions I honestly cant even say how they fit the general idea/spirit of the event - its a beach party at Costa del Sol, why would we wander around Eorzea to remember our old battles or comrades? Why would we be at the beach in swimwear to train new adventures (unless we're training them in staying away from that lalafell and how to consume lots and lots of booze)?
    Coz you arent thinking creatively, youre trying to paint it as something else. None of your points bare any resemblance to the ideas proposed. squads dont use ATE to protect npcs, Neither do fates with birds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    How does any of what you suggested requires the player to really think?
    Its supposed to be a fun, little Why would we be at the beach in swimwear to train new adventures
    on that point, if you recall the first moonfire faire event, why were we in swimwear in the middle of thanalan to beat up bombs?
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  9. #19
    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    Seasonal events are just supposed to be fluff. that's it. you're expecting too much out of them.
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  10. #20
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    It would be fun with some sort of lore related quiz. You know, something like the Ragtime Mouse's special battles in FF9: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iISPrBZ0m0

    Edit: not thinking of this one seasonal in particular, just a general idea.
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