Ok, lets do it, WHAT is wrong with this game?

[PerrinTaveren]

If you don't like it, don't play it or take a break. No reason to do negative criticism imo.

[CorbinDallas]

If you don't like it, don't play it or take a break. No reason to do negative criticism imo.

Yeah let's not air our frustrations with the game and give absolutely 0 feedback to the developers so they can continue to give us the same shitty "content" for the next 3 years. Oh boy I sure do love Eureka and Diadem! *thumbs up*

[Kaonis]

There's probably 2 major issues, one we clearly know and one we can only speculate on.

First, the clearest issue is the fact this game is built on the remains of 1.0. Both in regards to the underlying engine/code running the game and a lot of the design of the early 2.0 game retaining poorly fleshed out systems from 1.0 (i.e. classes, cross class abilities, leves). Given how fast a turn around they had from 1.0 to 2.0 they did a good job with what they had, but fundamentally the game needs a better engine designed for the game they want it to be, not a retrofit of an engine from a different game altogether.

Most discussions on the topic of how to fix or improve the game essentially boil down to them needing to just make a new engine from the ground up. Which of course by that point means they may as well just make a new game if they are putting forth that much effort.

Of course that's not to say all the blame can be left on the engine. There's clearly either a lack of resources to develop more imaginative content or lack of creativity to design it.

Diadem I think is a good example of this. It was referred to as exploratory missions, with the theme behind it being airships and exploration, yet it missed the mark on both those points. It had static monster spawns and only had the airship drop you off. On the most basic level to reach the goal of being an airship exploration content they could have made it that each island had randomized spawns. More so than that they could modulate it so each island could have an encounter module leaded onto it, something like a sky pirate encounter, dinosaur island, gathering node island, an island filled with traps and treasure, etc. With each encounter having a little variety in it in type/numbers of things spawned. That would give meaning to exploring as each island would be different each time you entered. As for airships, they simply could have made it so that to get from island to island you have to ride your airship. Even if all it is is players standing on the airship then telling an NPC to go to X island. It would be a start and could even open up allowing players to mount cannons while on the airship and have encounters with large flying enemies or other airships.

While I'm no programmer and more importantly I don't have the technical knowledge of their engines limitations (and neither does anyone outside the devs), I think those ideas are not a stretch to design and should reasonably work in the confines of how this game operates.

This is basically what I consider the second major issue; inability to implement creative content within their system, whether by a lack of creativity on their part or through a lack of resources to properly implement something more engaging. This point is more speculative as I've seen debates over whether the devs are creatively bankrupt or just lacking in the manpower to actually implement something actually new. Whether the formula exists because the devs feel safe with it or because its the only thing allowing them to churn out repainted content to keep the sub money coming in.

I have no idea on what reason it may be, I just know the end result is the game hasn't felt fresh in years. I hardly look forward to new patches and find myself on the game less and less outside raid nights. 4.3 has also been a bland patch and stretched way too thin, probably to maintain subs.

All things considered I get the feeling that they may never work on fixing fundamental flaws of this game. Because it would take too much to overhaul the entire engine and core of the game. Also, it's been 2 expansions and some 5 years without innovation and sticking to the formula and they can maintain enough subs and supplement lost sub income with the very over-reaching cash shop, so the higher ups know there's not much need to keep things fresh. I get the feeling after the SE survey we'll probably hear about the next FF MMO in about 2-4 years, while this game stays on autopilot to be low cost to maximize profit.

[ForctyusGold]

i think its okay to say - what is wrong - but i think this game have more funny and good parts , so how someone say - its just negativity with no constructive points

[MomomiMomi]

If you don't like it, don't play it or take a break. No reason to do negative criticism imo.

Any smart consumer will tell a company what it is they feel they could do better, and a smart company will be happy to receive it.

This is how business improves for everyone involved.

Also, you can like something and still see what's wrong with it. You don't have to blindly just accept everything and pretend that it's perfect.

[CorbinDallas]

Any smart consumer will tell a company what it is they feel they could do better, and a smart company will be happy to receive it.

This is how business improves for everyone involved.

Also, you can like something and still see what's wrong with it. You don't have to blindly just accept everything and pretend that it's perfect.

Don't talk nonsense! If there's a fly in my soup why tell the waiter and get it fixed when I can just not eat it and still pay for it?

[MuseTraveller]

Don't talk nonsense! If there's a fly in my soup why tell the waiter and get it fixed when I can just not eat it and still pay for it?

Because next time they will let a roach slip in the soup with the idea that no one will complain since no one ever complained from the fly before.
And this is how restaurants close.

[CorbinDallas]

Because next time they will let a roach slip in the soup with the idea that no one will complain since no one ever complained from the fly before.
And this is how restaurants close.

Cockroaches are high in protein though. Yum.

[MuseTraveller]

Cockroaches are high in protein though. Yum.

A point.
Gotta see the bright side of life. Too bad it's hard to see the bright side in Pagos... beyond the bright snow burning your eyes during day time.

[Pomelo]

If you don't like it, don't play it or take a break. No reason to do negative criticism imo.

Excuse me but no. We pay our money for this game, and are entitled to give feedback.
Nothing has changed since A Realm Reborn, yes it was a good BASE for a growing MMO but we are still at this base. Copy and Paste content is getting boring, content is now designed to milk as much money in subs as possible as all goals are tediously slow, content being staggered so you have to sub more than once. Grind Grind all the time, new haircuts isn't content, new costumes in mogstation isn't content either. People say oh just sub for each patch and take a break, but soon its gonna be, sub for the expansion day and then quit till next expansion. This game is just offering the bare minimum it can at the moment to keep subs, people need to speak with their wallets.