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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    You do realize you just agreed with me, right?

    It's not meh as in they aren't strong, Butcher's Block is still WAR's highest combo, it's that they offer nothing but enmity. Heck Royal Authority offers nothing but pure damage, but is still useful since that's PLS's highest combo.
    Buter's block is second place. Storm's path heals, does the more potency over time and generates 10 more gauge, so its more optimal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyneste View Post
    Buter's block is second place. Storm's path heals, does the same potency and generates 10 more gauge, so its more optimal.
    Storm's Eye and Storm's Path are both 280 potency, Butcher's Block is 300. The 20 extra potency doesn't outweigh the benefits the other two offer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Storm's Eye and Storm's Path are both 280 potency, Butcher's Block is 300. The 20 extra potency doesn't outweigh the benefits the other two offer.
    Except it does because: Every 5 combos you do you get one Fell Cleave.

    Butcher's Block Combo: 160 + 210 + 300 = 670 or 223.3 per GCD. 20 Gauge.
    Storm's Path: 160 + 200 + 280 = 640 or 213.3 per GCD. 30 Gauge.

    Every 5 combos you gain two fell cleaves with BB. So in 5 Combos for Butcher's block you'd do: 670 * 5 + 2 * 520 (two fell cleaves.) Over the course of 17 GCDS thats 4390.

    Every 5 combos you gain 3 Fell cleaves with Storms Eye. So in 5 combos youd do 640 *5 + 3* 520 (three fell cleaves,) Over the course of 18 GCDS thats 4760.

    The average for BB per GCD would be 258.23 potency. (4390/17)
    The average for SP per GCD would be 264.44 potency. (4760/18)

    Its a 2.34% damage increase to spam Storm's path. To widen the gap further OGCD's can be used in place of Fell Cleave in spending the gauge, doing more damage in a shorter time frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyneste View Post
    Its a 2.34% damage increase to spam Storm's path. To widen the gap further OGCD's can be used in place of Fell Cleave in spending the gauge, doing more damage in a shorter time frame.
    What you said/showed is not inaccurate, but it is slightly off topic. The main issue was what does Butcher's Block do besides increased enmity. On the surface it looks like it provides higher damage, but the amount offered doesn't outway the benefits of the other combo finishers.

    It wasn't about the "long run" of the fight it was what each combo brings. Which is an issue that is effecting all the tanks right now. But ultimately, you agreed no harm no foul.

    Quote Originally Posted by Garry View Post
    What they are saying is that the extra gauge means that storm's path is the highest potency as beast gage is directly relaterable to a set number of potency. Making storms path just more damage period, and thus the emnity combo is a lower damage option.
    Yeah I noticed that. It was just slightly confusing cause he changed the perspective. We were looking at what each combo does, he was talking about long term. But doesn't matter, in the end everyone agreed Butcher's Block is crap.
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    Last edited by Eloah; 08-07-2018 at 07:35 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Storm's Eye and Storm's Path are both 280 potency, Butcher's Block is 300. The 20 extra potency doesn't outweigh the benefits the other two offer.
    What they are saying is that the extra gauge means that storm's path is the highest potency as beast gage is directly relaterable to a set number of potency. Making storms path just more damage period, and thus the emnity combo is a lower damage option.
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