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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Except a parser can only accurately display information in a raid setting. Jobs like Monk, Bard, Machinist, Paladin and Dark Knight all rely on other jobs for a good portion of their damage. Furthermore, how are players going to improve if they can't compare themselves to someone better? 4,500 DPS to an inexperienced Dragoon may look fantastic yet those were my numbers at the beginning of Deltascape. Putting all that aside, a personal improvement will have the same results as a public one; people will demand you show your numbers and hold you accounting in harder end content should you lie. To which I say, why is this such a bad things? Personal or public, why should the expectation be veteran players carry bad or inexperienced players in farm or weeklies parties? If the group's okay with helping out, that's one thing. It shouldn't be the expectation though.

    And as Moro said, no one has ever shown where parsers are specifically to blame for supposed toxicity. I can point to arguably more examples of casual players mocking others under the assumption they're doing good damage. In fact, I've been on the receiving end of such a laughable example. When you're being mocked by a SAM pulling sub 4k while you've been dead on the floor and still beating them. I sincerely doubt he had a parse going or he wouldn't have said two words.
    Didn't an event host get mocked over poor performance, granted ACT played very little when it came to this indecent but I can only assume for Yoshi-P it was a factor. That factor alone is enough for him to never consider the idea. I do not think it is matter of convincing the community more so convincing a lead developer that thought it was a good idea to remove PvP chat from feast due to actions of few players, or patch out methods players found to work around mailing items to their own characters in fear of RMT.

    Either way I do not think it is fair to think the abuse does not happen because people do not show screen shots. I have friends in discord that have trolled others players over their numbers. From my personal experience most players that are victims to the such harassment are often out of touch of all the resources and information regarding the game. Though if you ask around certain circles it is not uncommon for players to abuse the tool to make light of others. Once again ACT playsed very little in the act, but for many the view it as a factor. I am in the camp jerks will be jerks, but for some they and I feel for Yoshi-P they feel the need to limit the tools such players can use in harm others.

    Sort of like those that wish to ban all firearms, sure it does not make sense in the grand scheme of things, but to a degree I understand the notion. I guess for those that it happens to for whatever reason for them it is a real issue / fear.

    I do feel the current status quo is fine, sure I wish the current system was opt-in instead of out. That will never happen though since FFlogs gains no benefit in doing so.
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    Last edited by Awha; 08-06-2018 at 12:13 AM.