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  1. #11
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    Clover Blake
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    Pagos is being released in two days o.o?
    I think it's good they spread out content like this. It makes the waiting for the next patches much more exciting, as we get new updates every month, and it also gives my friends new reasons to keep coming back to play with me. I'm personally up for it.
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  2. #12
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    Ryligh Kell
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    Gotta make sure that players cant fate train this one!
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypnotic13371337 View Post
    Gotta make sure that players cant fate train this one!
    Which we will do anyways because SE doesn't have much foresight.
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  4. #14
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    Masahiro Kido
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis View Post
    Here's your new weapon you can use to farm more tomestones, cuz the next tomestone weapon will be better anyways. This is why people are getting sick of this game. It's easy, boring, and repetitive as fk.

    This ^ right here is what I've been saying for a while now.




    Relics in this game are completely pointless because they are always outdated as soon as a new major patch comes along that boosts ilvl. The new tomestone coming in 4.4 will again bump up the ilvl and with it, new weapons that will outshadow the Eureka relics. No matter how much grinding you do for those brainless weapons, they will continue to be outdated and like the other past relic/anima weapons, they will be reduced to "glamour status".



    The progression trendmill is so meh and pathetic that most players become complicit in it. That's why imo, relic weapons and the other different upgradeable weapons in FFXI will always be better. They took time to fully power up but it was well rewarding, give you more to do and you got a weapon that would last you more than 3 months. Most of those weapons could last you years. And they even got further upgrades quite a while ago so hanging on to them was even more worth it.


    The weapons and armor you get from relic quests and other different weapon/armor quests in FFXI felt more complete. You get a sense of accomplishment from taking the time to complete those weapons and armor upgrades. There is no sense of accomplishment for relics in FFXIV since the sh*t gets outdated so fast, which makes the time invested feel like a waste. And to add relic to diadem 3.0 with a soul draining fate grind is even more moronic and a waste of time. But to those who like doing a boring grind for a weapon or piece of gear that will be outdated come the next ilvl boost patch, more power to ya!




    /2 cents
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  5. #15
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by AncientCrystal View Post
    What iLv are the new Pagos weapons supposed to be? I'm thinking there're 375 like O8s weapons, but the issue is, they be outdated in 4.4 This is insanity.
    It'll be i370 more than likely as the relic hasn't equaled Savage since Gordias. Which means it's effectively useless as those five materia slots won't be nearly enough to make up for a crafted i380 weapon or the Primal's i385 alternative.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clover_Blake View Post
    Pagos is being released in two days o.o?
    I think it's good they spread out content like this. It makes the waiting for the next patches much more exciting, as we get new updates every month, and it also gives my friends new reasons to keep coming back to play with me. I'm personally up for it.
    I feel precisely the opposite. I have been less excited for new content because of their delays. Instead of looking forward to HoH, my response is generally "finally. I have something new to do." I also become significantly more critical of its flaws given they had several months longer to fine tune things and didn't. Case in point, if Pagos turns into Amemos but with Magicite Restrictions, I very much doubt it'll have a warm reception, especially because of the delay.
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  6. #16
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    If Pagos had been out at 4.3's launch, when there was an entire patch to make use of the weapon, it might not be so bad. Now the patch is half over, there's not much left to do with it. I guess it'll help farming Rathalos?
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    I feel precisely the opposite. I have been less excited for new content because of their delays. Instead of looking forward to HoH, my response is generally "finally. I have something new to do." I also become significantly more critical of its flaws given they had several months longer to fine tune things and didn't. Case in point, if Pagos turns into Amemos but with Magicite Restrictions, I very much doubt it'll have a warm reception, especially because of the delay.
    The delay is particularly irritating when you consider that Eureka was pushed as a major expansion feature...only to be repeatedly pushed back. Shirogane was also pushed as a major expansion feature but...well, I guess I don't need to point out how bleak the housing situation is in this game.
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  8. #18
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    All the "major" expansion features have been very disappointing. Don't expect Pagos to pull a miracle.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    If Pagos had been out at 4.3's launch, when there was an entire patch to make use of the weapon, it might not be so bad. Now the patch is half over, there's not much left to do with it. I guess it'll help farming Rathalos?
    Unless they made the grind significantly longer, this would all but invalid both the Tsukiyomi and HoH weapons, which Yoshida mentioned. That has been their problem for a while now. They have no idea how to offer rewards because they have no options that won't render something else obsolete.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    The delay is particularly irritating when you consider that Eureka was pushed as a major expansion feature...only to be repeatedly pushed back. Shirogane was also pushed as a major expansion feature but...well, I guess I don't need to point out how bleak the housing situation is in this game.
    My sentiments exactly. Pagos will determine my opinion on Eureka as a whole as I'm willing to accept the delays were so they could design every zone at once. If it's the same boring "kill a bunch of trash before a FATE spawns," I'll chalk it up as yet another misstep for Stormblood.
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  10. #20
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clover_Blake View Post
    Pagos is being released in two days o.o?
    Isn’t Pagos coming with 4.4?

    The Monster Hunter collaboration trial starts in two days.
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