What the Hell is taking Pagos soo long?

[Bourne_Endeavor]

If Pagos had been out at 4.3's launch, when there was an entire patch to make use of the weapon, it might not be so bad. Now the patch is half over, there's not much left to do with it. I guess it'll help farming Rathalos?

Unless they made the grind significantly longer, this would all but invalid both the Tsukiyomi and HoH weapons, which Yoshida mentioned. That has been their problem for a while now. They have no idea how to offer rewards because they have no options that won't render something else obsolete.

The delay is particularly irritating when you consider that Eureka was pushed as a major expansion feature...only to be repeatedly pushed back. Shirogane was also pushed as a major expansion feature but...well, I guess I don't need to point out how bleak the housing situation is in this game.

My sentiments exactly. Pagos will determine my opinion on Eureka as a whole as I'm willing to accept the delays were so they could design every zone at once. If it's the same boring "kill a bunch of trash before a FATE spawns," I'll chalk it up as yet another misstep for Stormblood.

[Remedi]

My sentiments exactly. Pagos will determine my opinion on Eureka as a whole as I'm willing to accept the delays were so they could design every zone at once. If it's the same boring "kill a bunch of trash before a FATE spawns," I'll chalk it up as yet another misstep for Stormblood.

I dunno, ppl yet complain about Fate grind yet there were two complete eurekas on my data center and they are usally full at least one.
I'm not really sure what to think now, perhaps SE is right just use a carrot and everything is done.
Perhaps I should stop caring about it and just play the game, seems that anything unrelated from my entertaininment is just making my life worse at this point

[Rufalus]

Oh okay. Must be part 3 coming with 4.4 then.

Yeah, part 3 in 4.4 or more accurately 4.4x because it's likely to be staggered away from the main patch.

Pagos will determine my opinion on Eureka as a whole

Well I feel like Pagos is a filler chapter because it's skipping armor upgrades and we've had confirmation that armor will be back in part 3, in addition to part 3 bringing a new gameplay system which allows jobs to be played like a different role eg bard-tank.

Part 2 (pagos) is only weapon upgrades and some kind of hidden treasure system with snow bunnies helping you find loot. Knowing that game development has to be planned a lot in advance, they may not have had enough time between anemos and pagos to fully adapt to player feedback yet so I wouldn't make a final verdict on eureka this soon.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Well I feel like Pagos is a filler chapter because it's skipping armor upgrades and we've had confirmation that armor will be back in part 3, in addition to part 3 bringing a new gameplay system which allows jobs to be played like a different role eg bard-tank.

Part 2 (pagos) is only weapon upgrades and some kind of hidden treasure system with snow bunnies helping you find loot. Knowing that game development has to be planned a lot in advance, they may not have had enough time between anemos and pagos to fully adapt to player feedback yet so I wouldn't make a final verdict on eureka this soon.

Mayhaps not, however this is where the delays begin to factor in. With Pagos, Eureka will have essentially been hyped for over a year. If all they have to show for it are two glorified FATE/Hunt amalgamations and treasure bunnies, they deserve the backlash that will likely be forthcoming. That doesn't mean phase three couldn't pick things up, but I feel people have a right to be far less optimistic.

[NolLacnala]

yet there were two complete eurekas on my data center...

Math for giggles. You're on Cerb, which has ~12,800 "active" players according to census. Let's halve that for fun, since people log in and out constantly. Two full Eureka instances, at 144 per, is 288 total players. 288 out of 6400 is 4.5% of the total playerbase of your server. Even if we double that to account for attendance shuffling, it's still less than 10% of the server's players. 10% with heavy, pop positive bias number fudging.

[Zsolen]

Math for giggles. You're on Cerb, which has ~12,800 "active" players according to census. Let's halve that for fun, since people log in and out constantly. Two full Eureka instances, at 144 per, is 288 total players. 288 out of 6400 is 4.5% of the total playerbase of your server. Even if we double that to account for attendance shuffling, it's still less than 10% of the server's players. 10% with heavy, pop positive bias number fudging.

You are still fudging the numbers in your favor, although I don't think it was intentional. People don't log in to do only one thing and do it most of the week.

[Jijifli]

Math for giggles. You're on Cerb, which has ~12,800 "active" players according to census. Let's halve that for fun, since people log in and out constantly. Two full Eureka instances, at 144 per, is 288 total players. 288 out of 6400 is 4.5% of the total playerbase of your server. Even if we double that to account for attendance shuffling, it's still less than 10% of the server's players. 10% with heavy, pop positive bias number fudging.

There's the bonus fact that Data center is all the worlds, not just Cerb. That means out of an entire Data Center, Remedi's saying there's 2 full 144 room servers.

That's hilariously pathetic. Even the high end raiding scene, which is argued as the vast minority, has more than that I'm pretty sure. Your casual content has to be a flop if that little people want to do it.

[Mandudez]

There's the bonus fact that Data center is all the worlds, not just Cerb. That means out of an entire Data Center, Remedi's saying there's 2 full 144 room servers.

That's hilariously pathetic. Even the high end raiding scene, which is argued as the vast minority, has more than that I'm pretty sure. Your casual content has to be a flop if that little people want to do it.

For another comparison I think more people are active in pvp right now than Eureka lol.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I dunno, ppl yet complain about Fate grind yet there were two complete eurekas on my data center and they are usally full at least one.
I'm not really sure what to think now, perhaps SE is right just use a carrot and everything is done.
Perhaps I should stop caring about it and just play the game, seems that anything unrelated from my entertaininment is just making my life worse at this point

To be fair, Amemos was the first iteration and they added both relic weapons and armor, thus it piqued people's interest. I suspect the same intrigue won't be nearly as widespread this time around. Even then, Eureka still garnered a sizable negative reaction—enough even Kotaku wrote an article about it.

[Liam_Harper]

I dunno, ppl yet complain about Fate grind yet there were two complete eurekas on my data center and they are usally full at least one.

Of course Eureka fills, it's the premium source of your Mendacity cap. There are also players who dislike Eureka but are dragging themselves in there before next patch to keep up to date on the weapon.

I really hope they don't look at activity as an indicator for how successful content is.