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    era1Ne's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    You are completly right that the so called casuals are in way higher numbers in every game but it happens in every game that if the so called hardcore players stop playing the game, it starts dying because the casuals lose their fun also since no one is farming the stuff they need or spends their gold/gil or what ever for their items and they also don't get carries anymore and can't do some content because of that. Games need both types of players but that doesn't mean that a casual player has to be lazy and just press 1,2,3.
    I think you missunderstood my point here and of course an game needs to have both types of players. Imo punishing people is not the right way to convince them to get better and banning people for an hour, if their dmg was not high enough, is just a very bad idea as it is, but the idea gets even worse, when you think about the fact that sometimes you are not at fault, since teammates can kill you during a few bossfights.

    PS: I think everyone should try their best, but at the end of the day, we know some people don't care. Doesn't matter to them, if we think this is an bad attitude and Square Enix can do nothing, without hurting the budget of the game, to fix this. After all you can't force people to change.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Parsers are great for end game raiding, some would even say necessary. But for casual content it would be overwhelming and people would misunderstand and misuse them. Parsers are NOT a teaching tool, they are an optimising tool, and people need to stop treating them like they can teach newer or more casual people how to play.
    Yep, totally agree here.
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Quote Originally Posted by era1Ne View Post
    I think you missunderstood my point here and of course an game needs to have both types of players. Imo punishing people is not the right way to convince them to get better and banning people for an hour, if their dmg was not high enough, is just a very bad idea as it is, but the idea gets even worse, when you think about the fact that sometimes you are not at fault, since teammates can kill you during a few bossfights.

    PS: I think everyone should try their best, but at the end of the day, we know some people don't care. Doesn't matter to them, if we think this is an bad attitude and Square Enix can do nothing, without hurting the budget of the game, to fix this. After all you can't force people to change.
    Yep, totally agree here.
    Oh i've never said to punish or ban them and i never will say that. I don't expect anyone to play perfect but i expect at least a bit of trying and accepting tips and having a bit of interest instead of plain pressing 1,2,3, rolling head over the keyboard or have this "you don't pay my sub" mindset. Nothing of that will ever happen as long as these players will still get their carries and SE doesn't offer tools that make them improve if they like it or not.

    I mean you saw in the past how often people demanded nerfs for stuff that was not even close to extremly difficult just because they are to lazy to play their classes right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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