Letter to Mr. Yoshi

[RiyahArp]

I always found it strange that a game that relies so heavily on DPS checks provides you no feedback on your DPS. Feedback is such an important part of learning, yet almost none is provided by the game itself.

It doesn't rely heavily on DPS checks. You only get them in ex trials and savage, which is a tiny part of the game. Too many people here think all people do in this game is savage or something, when you can play it without ever encountering a serious dps check in it, and the type of play you do can easily be gauged how well you are doing by eyeballing it.

And tbh, most people do fine enough by eyeballing it. People here talk a lot of junk about needing it when they really use it to optimize, not to be competent. They define what is good much higher than what is needed to beat the content, which is why FFLogs sucks.

[Sigma-Astra]

It doesn't rely heavily on DPS checks. You only get them in ex trials and savage, which is a tiny part of the game. Too many people here think all people do in this game is savage or something, when you can play it without ever encountering a serious dps check in it, and the type of play you do can easily be gauged how well you are doing by eyeballing it.

And tbh, most people do fine enough by eyeballing it. People here talk a lot of junk about needing it when they really use it to optimize, not to be competent. They define what is good much higher than what is needed to beat the content, which is why FFLogs sucks.

There are DPS checks at least in the Vault and Ala Mihgo, they're not just relegated towards EX trials and Savage. That is a bit false.

As for eyeballing it, that's never a good indicator. Anyone can eyeball and say they're #2 on the enmity list and think they're doing an excellent job while doing things incorrectly or out of order because the next person doesn't know what they're doing either or they died, so guess what? You just got bumped higher on the list despite not being all that great yourself either.

FFlogs isn't just for optimization, it IS also for competency. A person's FFlogs will show whether that person used their mitigation or role actions correctly, it'll show their up time percentages, deaths, buffs. It's about optimization AND competence. You need both. Lamenting that a tool sucks without properly knowing about using it yourself only shows your bias against something that's only meant to help you, not hinder you.

I'm not sure why you need to put down parsing in a thread specifically meant for people FOR parsing, not against it.

[Legion88]

They define what is good much higher than what is needed to beat the content, which is why FFLogs sucks.

"Good" should never be the describing word for the baseline to complete something with the bare minimum effort or performance.
The describing word you seek is "enough" or "barely enough".

[Campi]

It doesn't rely heavily on DPS checks. You only get them in ex trials and savage, which is a tiny part of the game.

And what's now the problem for you, if the parser is only for that content?
A parser is only needed in content with dps-checks.
You said, you're not doing raids. So why do you have a problem with it? It wouldn't effect you in any way ö.ö

And tbh, most people do fine enough by eyeballing it. People here talk a lot of junk about needing it when they really use it to optimize, not to be competent.

Just diffrent kinds of playstyles.
Some just want to do the bare minimum, some just want to play good and optimize. Both are fine, if you play with the same kind of ppl around you.

They define what is good much higher than what is needed to beat the content, which is why FFLogs sucks.

So you didn't get it how FFlogs work?
It is the best option we have imo, to analyze our Fights, find better Rotations, Openers etc..
If you don't want that, it's ok. But don't blame things you just don't unterstand^^
This is the "typical hardcore casual" harassment over such things.

[CorbinDallas]

It doesn't rely heavily on DPS checks. You only get them in ex trials and savage, which is a tiny part of the game.

Every boss in Rabanastre has a DPS check, Hashmal has four (2x orbs, tower, golems), final boss has 2 back to back. Yiazmat has two, Belias has one. NM trials all have DPS checks, it's been a thing for years now, as early as Ifrit's nails. Not only that but a few have soft enrages.

Dungeons are littered with them too. Zenos, Fractal HM final boss, Genbu has one, Wukong has one. Deep Dungeons are full of them, about half the mobs in there enrage if you don't kill them fast enough.

So...Yeah. DPS checks aren't exclusive to EX/Savage. They may be easier outside of those, but they exist. Get your facts straight.

[Ilan]

They define what is good much higher than what is needed to beat the content, which is why FFLogs sucks.

So you don't understand how fflogs work and thats why it sucks? Fflogs is a very good tool if you know how to use it.

Guess where all of your propper rotations are from. It comes from people who are parsing and using fflogs.