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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    there is 100mil gil in the economy

    you have 10mil, other players have 90mil

    you buy 10 materias for 10mil gil total

    10mil gil is NOT removed from the economy, only transfered to other players(minus the 5% tax on their sales, so lets say 500k was removed)


    so you may value your materia at a certain ammount, but your materia is not actual gil

    the other players do however have your gil minus that tax

    so by spending 10mil gil, you lost 10mil, but only 500k was actualy removed from the economy
    I sort of understand that lol. Where I'm getting confused is I understand buying a item for X amount and losing a certain amount to the tax. I have that item though and can sell it when done with it. The forbidden materia example is where I need some convincing, that's gil paid, and when attempted and lost is gone for good. I know longer hold an item of value. Every item that can be sold holds some gil value. Whether or not I drop it, sell it, npc it is up to me. Btw this topic has gone all over the place lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CalypsoRose View Post
    I sort of understand that lol. Where I'm getting confused is I understand buying a item for X amount and losing a certain amount to the tax. I have that item though and can sell it when done with it. The forbidden materia example is where I need some convincing, that's gil paid, and when attempted and lost is gone for good. I know longer hold an item of value. Every item that can be sold holds some gil value. Whether or not I drop it, sell it, npc it is up to me. Btw this topic has gone all over the place lol.
    forbidden materia is still gil paid to ANOTHER PLAYER
    as i said, it doesnt remove the gil from the game, only from your inventory, into another players



    items in the economy isnt the issue, its gil itself people are looking at
    if you want to count gil value of items, then its value is only what it can be vendored for. so you lost those materia and those items, which you paid 2mil for it, you really only removed 40k gil from taxes when you did so, and maybe 20k more gil from the value of the items to a vendor(which really doesnt count)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalypsoRose View Post
    I sort of understand that lol. Where I'm getting confused is I understand buying a item for X amount and losing a certain amount to the tax. I have that item though and can sell it when done with it. The forbidden materia example is where I need some convincing, that's gil paid, and when attempted and lost is gone for good. I know longer hold an item of value. Every item that can be sold holds some gil value. Whether or not I drop it, sell it, npc it is up to me. Btw this topic has gone all over the place lol.
    Right it does remove an item(s) from the game but gil itself is not removed. The actual amount of gil that item is worth is not removed from the game when that item is destroyed. You see a personal loss of assets but no actual gil is lost. Materia requires no money to make, no money to slot and no money to trade (selling is a different matter). As such it does not require any gil to be removed from the system.
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