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  1. #351
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    Vstarstruck's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiaque View Post
    Dont worry, I understand you have limitations. And likely cannot multitask or read fast, alot cant, you do not have to feel bad.

    @24spencer. Kid, this is my second account, and I been playing since 1.0 BETA, I lost my primary account due to factors I wont explain here, but you can find my char of the same name on another server, and I have these ridiculous color code parsers come up in the past. And I will again once I feel like raiding again, theirs more to life than this game, such as well, playing other games, and going to the gym.

    @Bourne laugh all ya want, do you even have a Mesuline Mauler title? You can check my primary account character, ill even open achievements up on him, if I am able to, you will see I gotten it at 2.0. Doubt its something you can do, but then again, who cares about titles from super hard content these days? Half the ultimate legend titles I seen, were bought by players who payed the Group money and allowed them to take over their account. Fact is, that I am able to rile you up so easily means you have insecurity. You are new at mind games arnt you?

    @MoroMurasaki See @Bourne

    @Hyo How without a parser? Its called Multitasking and being able to do Calculations inside your head. I am well aware a majority of people fail at math *As seen on Construct these days....* but if you are able to multitask and do simple calculations, you dont need a parser to get an estimate on someones dps.

    Seeing as the pages skyrocketed like I knew it would, thus why I simply ignored the thread a couple days to let those I quoted basically, fall for it. I just basically proven and shown how ridiculous elitists and those who think they have something to prove, in a video game, can be for you OP. The thing is, even if Parsers were completely forbidden, even if SE somehow found a way to prevent parsers from working. Even if SE placed some tracker on your computer with your XIV install to look for parser usage thus preventing any and all use bottom line...

    Elitists and those obsessed over a video game will always, always try to find a way, to lord over you, try to prove they are a "Superior Human Being" over you, or generally troll or belittle you, because sadly, it is Human nature, majorly found in mostly young players between the ages of 16 to 32. As you clearly saw, all I had to do was make a few statements saying I can do this, and I can beat you at that, then they all got up in arms, checking my lodestone spite not knowing this is a second account I am starting over again, and have no realization that my primary account has a couple world firsts, and been ridiculously high up on logs during the stints I played, but thats besides the point. The point is, you will find players of these types in any mmo, be it Hello Kitty Island Adventure *jokes* or ESO, or Wildstar, or Aion, or BDO, FFXI, TERA, Maple friggen story, Ragnarok Online, etc. I been playing mmorpgs for near two decades now, and this kind of behavior you will see from people be it on forum or ingame, is always prevalent.

    Once alot of these players I triggered easily gets older, and wiser, they will look back and realize how pointless it all is, that getting hot under the collar over a video game, that yelling, and cursing and belittling people, over a video game, is not only gonna make them feel very silly, but will make them ask themselves "Why would I behave like this?" and so forth.

    So, if you wanna not deal with elitists anymore and their B.S? Simply ignore them, SE cant do it for you, no mmo company can, you will find these types of players everywhere you go, thats why you simply either ignore them, make a network of friends to lessen the chance of running into these kind of players, or take preventive measures like chat filters, or simply learning and playing your class better. But overall, ever since a certain MMO, elitists have gotten worse, but truth is? Most of them would not be able to handle a more difficult MMO. I can assure you right now, the ones I quoted, and many others, would not last one week in a game like Everquest before Planes of Power, nor would they last a week in the upcoming Pantheon Rise of the Fallen. Because those games dont hand hold, they dont spell things out for you, they are not easy to play and requires great patience, something most players do not have anymore, hence why they get angry or upset, in a video game, at someone who is "wasting their time".

    Play the game as you want, ignore the elitists. Have fun with a game YOU PAYED for. I suggest the ones I quoted adhere to my words and reflect on how silly they have been. Also, spend less time on the forums, its not good for you. I suggest maybe yanno, playing the game, or go play Golf. Golf is relaxing.
    wtf..
    If you are telling me, one person, can keep up perfect uptime in savage, while remembering every single damage outgoing of 8 people, only to add it all up after, well you should be on T.V. or something. You should be super famous to be able pull that off.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    Nice one, to be fair though he is likely comparing himself to a random pug dps player in expert or something where the bar is really low and able pull it off. However I do not think that player realizes the audience they are speaking to. Most people on forums, tend to be researches to some extent and have some extent of trying to perform well. My point is, with anyone here, it is unlikely that player will able to pull off such claims.
    Also you did not address my 200 FPS comment
    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    You know what shocks me? No one pointed out the fallacy of that line. 200+ fps is useless if your monitor can't keep up. If he was smart and trying to cut out all the loopholes for a counter he would of stated what his monitor can render. This game is slow though so i highly, highly doubt more then 60 FPS makes any difference to DPS in this game. Getting less then 60 or jitter bouncing of a low number fps and to 60+ will make a difference but constant 60 vs anything more? na
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    Last edited by Vstarstruck; 07-23-2018 at 03:39 AM.

  2. #352
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    Ultima's Avatar
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    Hibiki Hisakawa
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    I am in general agreement, but I'd rather have us pick battles we can actually win. There is no way in hell that SE will ever implement parsers for all level of content, so it's best to focus on having it in content where it matters the most: Content with rewards gated by weekly participation to the point where a public party's chances of clearing said content decreases drastically the further into the week we progress.
    You should ask for the world and then let them come to the table with the compromise, there's no reason to let them weasel their way out of this. They already weaseled out of this with promising addons and then shoving it under the rug, we let SE get away with too much as it is. They're the reason that this game has any "toxicity" to begin with. Like when they added housing and then opened the houses for personal usage then afterwards reopened Balmung, another problem of their own design because the server capacity is too small in this spaghetti code game.
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    Last edited by Ultima; 07-23-2018 at 03:36 AM.

  3. #353
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    Hamada's Avatar
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    Aya Hamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Did not answer the question, can you come up with a number or just get a general feeling that a person damage is low. The latter is what most people do, the former I am a tad skeptical but I have no reason not to believe you since what does someone gain from lying over the internet. I mean if you come up with a number based more so off your experience and not so much the data I would not say that is a product of figuring out calculations yourself, more so making an educated guess based off the general performance and time to kill. Just the way you worded made it seem like you can process all the data in the combat log and gain a fair estimate as to what a player is doing, but sounds like you are simply making an educated guess based off the factors you can easily keep track of such as ability usage or lack, general performance etc...
    Now you know how I feel, regardless I agree here, he did not adress you
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  4. #354
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    SaitoHikari's Avatar
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    Saito Hikari
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    Not entirely sure why my previous post was deleted, but I suppose it was too disparaging, even if I offered to put those mathematical skills to actual practice rather than a straight up hit and run.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    wtf..


    Also you did not address my 200 FPS comment
    None of us are going to get an answer. He's been banned. You can tell by the medals underneath his username disappearing. Though he probably got banned for something else seeing as that weird post is still up.

    Let's... Move on.
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    Last edited by SaitoHikari; 07-23-2018 at 03:46 AM.
    "Consider this old adage: When a Bard sings alone in a desert, and no one is around to hear him... Is he truly singing?"

  5. 07-23-2018 03:41 AM
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  6. #355
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    Djar Trovasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiaque View Post
    @24spencer. Kid, this is my second account, and I been playing since 1.0 BETA, I lost my primary account due to factors I wont explain here, but you can find my char of the same name on another server, and I have these ridiculous color code parsers come up in the past. And I will again once I feel like raiding again, theirs more to life than this game, such as well, playing other games, and going to the gym. .
    ya dude i know what the gym is i prefer swimming but to each their own
    i guess that was meant to be some sort of "LOL NERD i go to the GYM" thing but it just sounds sad stop it
    nearly everyone goes to the gym you aren't special

    only brought up the "ridiculous color code parsers" because you spent like 5 solid paragraphs #humblebragging about how amazing you are at the game while also making it very clear to everyone that you know absolutely nothing and just enjoy making cool stories up to sound impressive. tell me more about how you can just transcend the fight or flight rotation thanks to playing at 200 fps and how it magically makes shield oath not a dps loss for you or whatever it was you were trying to claim uwu

    1.0 beta? yah when the game was mechanically different in every way. what is your point?? knowing how to play 1.0 beta does not suddenly grant you expertise in what is essentially a totally different game

    your "other char" has no relevant content logs either btw so it's proof of precisely nothing
    "i bet u dont even have the siltwater socialite title which i got in 4.3 as you can check on my lodestone page uwu"

    any other stupid points you have to make i'm more than happy to laugh at them, internet tough guys(tm) bring me endless joy so bless u
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    Last edited by 24spencer; 07-23-2018 at 04:13 AM.

  7. #356
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiaque View Post
    @Bourne laugh all ya want, do you even have a Mesuline Mauler title? You can check my primary account character, ill even open achievements up on him, if I am able to, you will see I gotten it at 2.0. Doubt its something you can do, but then again, who cares about titles from super hard content these days? Half the ultimate legend titles I seen, were bought by players who payed the Group money and allowed them to take over their account. Fact is, that I am able to rile you up so easily means you have insecurity. You are new at mind games arnt you?
    You think I'm mad? I find you comically silly yet no less amusing, sweetheart. I'm also not the one attempting to wave their e-peen around, though seen you asked, I have my own Savage titles and progging uwu? Can you do that? Certainly not with your precious i310 gear.
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  8. #357
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    SargentToughie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    Not entirely sure why my previous post was deleted, but I suppose it was too disparaging, even if I offered to put those mathematical skills to actual practice rather than a straight up hit and run.



    None of us are going to get an answer. He's been banned. You can tell by the medals underneath his username disappearing. Though he probably got banned for something else seeing as that weird post is still up.

    Let's... Move on.
    I'm really heartbroken that my IQ hierarchy got caught in the crossfire.

    I spent like 15 whole minutes on the drive back from Subway thinking about it.
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    #notallraiders

  9. #358
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    Fiorinol's Avatar
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    Gilgamesh
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    https://xivanalysis.com/

    We have a new tool from elitist people from a community called The Balance. They look at people's parses and laugh at them on a discord server, it's unacceptable! Now they're going to use their toolbox to tell people how to play the game.

    I think we should remove all numbers from the game and that we shouldn't be able to see bosses' HP for the best experience, and bosses should also regen health if you DPS too hard for optimal play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiorinol View Post
    https://xivanalysis.com/

    We have a new tool from elitist people from a community called The Balance. They look at people's parses and laugh at them on a discord server, it's unacceptable! Now they're going to use their toolbox to tell people how to play the game.

    I think we should remove all numbers from the game and that we shouldn't be able to see bosses' HP for the best experience, and bosses should also regen health if you DPS too hard for optimal play.
    !!! Oh...oh thank you for this. I wish I had this tool back when I still played on this character. I looked up a few runs of mines and it pointed out a lot of areas where I had been really messing up in. Thanks!

    *bookmarked that site*

    **seriously, I did bookmark it. That tool is useful as hell*
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  11. #360
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    Vstarstruck's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    Not entirely sure why my previous post was deleted, but I suppose it was too disparaging, even if I offered to put those mathematical skills to actual practice rather than a straight up hit and run.

    ---

    Let's... Move on.
    SE deletes posts that quotes any post in violation, could been from that.
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