Letter to MR Yoshi: Why parses system is destroying the ffxiv world.

[Sigma-Astra]

True, I would need a parse, actually, no I wouldn't. I have what alot of players fail to remember or recognize what is called a Combat Log. Using this, Combat log, by taking a measure of the enmity produced, and any usage of Enmity reduction ability seen via this Log, I can determine Estimated DPS without, the need of a parser.

I had to stop reading after this part, it was just too much bs for one person to ingest on a healthy level.

And after skimming the rest of it, I can honestly say that I made the right decision.

[24spencer]

Can I outdps you as any of the three tanks? Yes, I can, been doing this far longer than near anyone, honestly reason why I quit, take long breaks, and come back is because it just gets boring. Honestly surprised that now I got ultra low ping, and playing the game at 200fps+ I am pulling off things I didnt think possible. But I been at it long enough to know how much enmity is needed, and when to stay in DPS and when not to, based on my group I am in.

who exactly are you trying to fool? yourself? for someone who has been "doing this far longer than near anyone" i'd have at least expected at least a single orange, not mostly blues and maybe 2 purples. You can get high purples on PLD literally by existing. not sure what im supposed to be impressed by, but i am incredibly doubtful that you could outdps on me on any of the 3 tanks. You've also apparently done zero high-end content since 4.0, so none of your anecdotes hold any stock. You can't try and claim that you just haven't got it logged because you don't parse, either, since you said yourself you're regularly joining "random pfs" where everyone just magically trolls you for threat which is definitely a thing that people do all the time. Are they just so considerate that they willingly don't ever upload logs with you in them after they've finished apparently bowing down to you as their messiah figure? Your entire post is equal parts fabricated, laughable and sad.

To any players suffering from elitism

I'd rather suffer from elitism if the alternative is suffering from utter delusion.

[Vstarstruck]

Long story short, the parses system create a real sort of DISCRIMINATION in the ffxiv world and that's really sad. We are in 2018 and still, it happens, if not for your skin colour or your social status or the clothes you wear, now even playing a game it happens...This system should be changed and I hope you will do something about.

Kind Regards
John

So can you explain how parsers lead to discrimination? I do not need a parser to see if a Healer is standing around not doing anything, or knowing some random DPS is not using AoE abilities. Is it discrimination to kick them after they say something like " you do not pay for my sub" as a reply to use such abilities?

I'd rather suffer from elitism if the alternative is suffering from utter delusion.

Nice one, to be fair though he is likely comparing himself to a random pug dps player in expert or something where the bar is really low and able pull it off. However I do not think that player realizes the audience they are speaking to. Most people on forums, tend to be researches to some extent and have some extent of trying to perform well. My point is, with anyone here, it is unlikely that player will able to pull off such claims.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

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Putting aside your hysterical nonsense. We're both on Cactuar. If you're so utterly amazing, why don't you round up some i320 gear from Deltascape and see if you can hold hate off my i370 DRG BiS without tank stance. :3

As for outdpsing me. Have any proof? I am quite curious how much you average. Ballpark it~

[Awha]

=)

Yo brah do you steam? Hit me up with those referral links for that sweet streamer gear. I want to ascend to that next level. Help me get out of wood league my man.

[MoroMurasaki]

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I find it hard to believe any of what you say about your skill given the absence of certain evidence.

You're on Aether - join a party with me and try to hold off of me in dps stance. You'll be able to tell I'm not parsing because my character info includes a psn id which only shows up for ps4 players.

Let me know if you're up for it. If not sit down, shut up and stop talking out of the wrong end.

[SaitoHikari]

The problem is the number of people who actually know how those tools work can be counted on one hand, and they're not accurate or reliable tools, but people want to believe they are so they can bludgeon other users with them. Everyone who doesn't like the site should explicitly optout of the site, and if people won't party with you for hiding parses, report them.

Players who use these tools on any active content, are cheaters. Just look what happened with UwU.

There is no accountability to be had. Bad players will use tools because they think they're in a e-peen competition. Good players don't use tools at all, or at least not tools that give them any advantage in playing content or automation. The friction comes from bad players who parse and think they're in a e-peen competition on content that doesn't even matter, harassing PUG's and PF's groups, instead of forming their own private e-peen party.

Parser users are wrecking the game, no doubt. And when parser users complain about the content being too easy... that is why.

I'm going to regret biting, but...

What -did- happen with UwU, if you don't mind me asking? What are you referring to, with that statement?

The official staff was watching the progress of the groups in that content very, very closely, after all. Enough that the combat designer was delighted when there was such positive reaction to the 'twist' of the fight. They also did know that no group that used the Ungarmax exploit was able to clear Bahamut Ultimate with it, as an example. Are you implying that the groups that have cleared UwU should be banned just for associating with parsers? Do you believe yourselves to have better judgement than the actual developers?

There are... Feelings. And then there is practical reality. Knowledge of the latter is certainly lacking in a lot of people in this age.

[HyoMinPark]

Can I outdps you as any of the three tanks? Yes, I can, been doing this far longer than near anyone

I have kept threat off of DPS Prodigies, very easily, while still doing high numbers of DPS myself.

How would you even know without a parser? :thinking:

Inb4, “Combat Log”, are you telling me that you can automate the entire battle log the same way a parser does? To do so would require you to be a mathematical savant, and I doubt that’s the case here.

Time played is not directly correlated to skill. I’ve known players since 2.0 Beta that can’t DPS their way out of a paper bag (no offense to them; they are all sweethearts), and players that started in 3.0 or 4.0 that have ridiculously good numbers and high skill levels.

Well yeah, the problem is most tanks don't have burst OGCD abilities or enmity controls. You can rip hate off tanks easily in HoH too, mostly because tanks can't ramp up enmity gain quickly to compensate. Their OGCDs tend to be mostly maintenance abilities or non-boosted enmity attacks, while enmity gain is tied mostly to GCD. They just can't dump as many attacks into a short period of time as DPS, so they had to give dps pretty absurd enmity reduction abilities to compensate.

You completely missed the point — Tiaque is claiming he can hold hate off of geared, skilled DPS in DPS STANCE in i310 gear, while the DPS are in i360+. He’s blatantly incorrect in such an assessment, and I used examples where I’ve ripped off of geared, skilled tanks by opening burst and other bursts after that while using my enmity management skills. And I’m not an orange-tier player, where as some of those tanks were.

[24spencer]

I'm going to regret biting, but...

What -did- happen with UwU, if you don't mind me asking? What are you referring to, with that statement?

The official staff was watching the progress of the groups in that content very, very closely, after all. Enough that the combat designer was delighted when there was such positive reaction to the 'twist' of the fight. They also did know that no group was able to clear Bahamut Ultimate even with the Ungarmax exploit, as an example.

im pretty sure that because of how the game sends network data you could tell slightly in advance who was going to be targeted by gaols or something, but iirc that's it.

[Enla]

I don't really understand where all these hyper aggressive raiders are apparently all hiding if this is such a massive problem? I've only had one issue involving a parser during my many years playing this game and as some might remember, it involved an idiot who didn't realize that stopping to raise people to help the healer would inevitably tank my DPS when people /KEPT ON DYING/. Except I can't even classify it as a 'parser' issue per say when it was clearly some nobody who decided to hyper focus on one lone DPS instead of addressing his friends in the party who gravitated towards every single AOE marker. Beyond that? I've never had an issue doing casual and semi-midcore content.

I expect it's more prevalent in the high-tier circles, but frankly I would say that's to be expected? While higher level content is more accessible than ever from what I've been led to understand, that doesn't mean people should slack on doing their fair share. Nor should their teammates be expected to carry the dredges on hands and knees because trying to do better is against someone's idea of 'fun'. Hard-core raiding isn't fun to me specifically because I don't have the time right now to dedicate to it, nor towards perfecting my gear or ability rotation. This is precisely why I don't go any higher than the extremes, and for SB I've only been able to dip my feet into Susano back when it was current and Tsukiyomi before life reared it's ugly head again. My idea of fun doesn't mesh well with the hard-core raiding mindset currently and I don't want to inflict myself upon those who do get enjoyment out of the challenge. Yet if I suddenly changed my mind one day and wish to attempt it, you'd bet your ass I'd be open to constructive criticism.

Nobody /owes/ me the time and effort to drag me through higher level content. If I want to take part in it, I'd expect to be held to a standard. Mind I'd hope the people trying to advise me would be polite, but nothing that I've seen from the FF community suggests that the vast majority wouldn't be.