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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    What are you trying to get at? SE only reads the Japanese forums, people say a lot, maybe they did not think people would go this far?
    What I am getting at is SE had a chance to do something about this they refused to listen and choose to ignore the player feedback regarding the changes. Look back most people said the changes would not stop selling of houses since all people would have to do is sell the FC, instead of the plot. People warned SE, they ignored it. Even if they did change the system SE already has set the precedent that they will grandfather people into the new set of rules. So once again, what are you trying to get at? Do you want a system change? Fair enough, but personally it seems like you are attacking players that found a cleaver loophole to rules SE put in place, a loophole SE was informed about by the community the moment the changes were announced.

    In the end SE was warned this would happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    What I am getting at is SE had a chance to do something about this they refused to listen and choose to ignore the player feedback regarding the changes. Look back most people said the changes would not stop selling of houses since all people would have to do is sell the FC, instead of the plot.
    So if people find "clever" ways to exploid a system they should be praised? I mean if that is the case, why are people that are finding bugs/exploids like Ungarmax then punished? Its not the players fault that there was no restriction to the LB of the squadron outside of their missions, so the players were totally awesome to find and use that exploid, right?

    An exploid is a exploid. (And lets not forget that the person in question, also wants to buy houses and if that one reddit thread is true, also tries to sell houses for over the top prices. That is 100% not a loop hole, but something that goes against Yoshidas wishes himself and the only reason they could still even sell the house right now, is with FC transfer, thus again, they use an exploid to the system to do something that is against the ToS. )
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    So if people find "clever" ways to exploid a system they should be praised? I mean if that is the case, why are people that are finding bugs/exploids like Ungarmax then punished? Its not the players fault that there was no restriction to the LB of the squadron outside of their missions, so the players were totally awesome to find and use that exploid, right?

    An exploid is a exploid. (And lets not forget that the person in question, also wants to buy houses and if that one reddit thread is true, also tries to sell houses for over the top prices. That is 100% not a loop hole, but something that goes against Yoshidas wishes himself and the only reason they could still even sell the house right now, is with FC transfer, thus again, they use an exploid to the system to do something that is against the ToS. )
    Probably because SE came out and told players not to exploit the LB and there was a fix coming soon.

    While on the subject of housing they have proven numerous times they grandfather people of multiple houses into the new system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by illgot View Post
    Probably because SE came out and told players not to exploit the LB and there was a fix coming soon.

    While on the subject of housing they have proven numerous times they grandfather people of multiple houses into the new system.
    Thank you.

    @Alleo that is the difference, SE came out and made a statement regarding it. The housing aspect is 100% a loophole in their rules, one that was pointed out by the community and was ignored by SE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Thank you.

    @Alleo that is the difference, SE came out and made a statement regarding it. The housing aspect is 100% a loophole in their rules, one that was pointed out by the community and was ignored by SE.
    At least the selling/buying houses is against the ToS and Yoshida had already made two statements about this. And they also put that one rule in it (even if it was seemingly just temporary) that allowed only one FC and private per world. Which kinda hints that they dont want people to own multiple houses. But maybe the GMs read this thread and will give information to the JP branch. Because using a loophole does not make it right.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    At least the selling/buying houses is against the ToS and Yoshida had already made two statements about this. And they also put that one rule in it (even if it was seemingly just temporary) that allowed only one FC and private per world. Which kinda hints that they dont want people to own multiple houses. But maybe the GMs read this thread and will give information to the JP branch. Because using a loophole does not make it right.
    Tell me why SE would care about what goes on between two happy customers? Your statement about SE not wanting people to own multiple FC houses is very weak considering they decided to remove that rule the moment it became open season for plots after those two weeks.
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