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  1. #31
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    Azerhan's Avatar
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    Orlane Armilly
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Otorinth View Post
    'Sure wish I had this "weak" Quietus as a Paladin.
    This ^

    Just starting playing PLD just to test, and god, you have nothing for AOE.
    The DRK is quite interresting, just for the combo with DA-AD, DA-DP, Salty Earth, TBN and Quietus, you have something to do.
    In WAR / PLD you have... What ? Two abilities ? WAR is the "AOE Fell Cleave", don't remember the name, and Domination, and in PLD you have the Link's move and an OGCD every 25 sec. Is quite boring, even for tanks.
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    "Là où il n'y a pas d'imagination, il n'y a pas d'horreur." Sherlock Holmes, Une étude en rouge, Conan Doyle

  2. #32
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    Daeriion_Aeradiir's Avatar
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    Daeriion Aeradiir
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Saeno View Post
    I mean. PLD is still missing slashing debuff, can't pull bosses as effectively as the other tanks, has stances locked to the GCD and deals with the longest tank invul of all tanks on top of their AoE. If we're talking strictly weakness in comparison to the job's strengths, PLD is very strong but it has clear weaknesses. Gaining AoE that is similar and as effective as the other tanks would not break PLD at all.
    I love ya Saeno but I'm like 99% sure with how he's worded his posts it was supposed to be sarcastic.

    Either way, it's pretty criminal just how bad PLD aoe is compared to the other two.
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  3. #33
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    WhyAmIHere's Avatar
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    Mute Shellback
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    Behemoth
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir View Post
    I love ya Saeno but I'm like 99% sure with how he's worded his posts it was supposed to be sarcastic.

    Either way, it's pretty criminal just how bad PLD aoe is compared to the other two.
    I mean, yeah it's bad, but checks and balances.
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  4. #34
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    Paladins walk into a DRK
    "Well what about me"
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  5. #35
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    Brynhilda Skyforge
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    Malboro
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    Paladins walk into a DRK
    "Well what about me"


    Well? what is it?
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    When you see someones glamour with non matching boots

  6. #36
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    Renato's Avatar
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    Rael Levynfang
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    Goblin
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    White Mage Lv 90
    It seems quietus is more of an MP restoration skill than a DPS skill. Its mainly used in big groups of enemy pulls to grant huge MP gains providing ammunition for other attacks. Same with Abyssal Drain which gives decent HP and enmity when used in large groups.

    I think Dark Passenger has the Largest AoE damage potential now if I'm not mistaken.
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  7. #37
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    Ziero Rehw-bidit
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    Malboro
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Saeno View Post
    Do you want to know what's bull? 5x decimates guaranteeing a crit/direct hit. If you seriously think PLD would be broken with more Aoe but WAR is fine with Inner release decimates then I think you need to take another look at the numbers between a PLD and WAR in aoe situations.
    That may be so, but WAR can only do it once every 90 seconds. Imagine having continuous powerful AoE for every single pull. PLD has excellent mitigation and damage, ontop of the most amount of utility. I will not stand for PLD excelling in AoE too.
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  8. #38
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    WhyAmIHere's Avatar
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    Mute Shellback
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    Behemoth
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hierro View Post
    I will not stand for *WAR not being the best tank of all.
    What you really mean.
    AD is pretty good AoE available every single pull, and like you demonstrated in the past with the right planning Q is up every single pull as well.
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  9. #39
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    Lambdafish's Avatar
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Why is Quietus so weak? Because if it was stronger it would be called Loudus
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  10. #40
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    Lilla La'aurora
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    Phoenix
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    Dancer Lv 98
    Jeez guys, this is almost PF, nobody reads the whole thing D: I know PLD AoE is bad (as stated first line in the OP) but I posted the thread to talk about Quietus (Though, I do welcome the discussion about how to improve PLD AoE next patches/expansion). Not talking about everyone of course, there's some pretty good discussion and IMO I even got the answers I was looking for, but I think everyone gets that PLD has abysmal AoE at this point.
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