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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Fc tags are not unique labels. You're not looking at one fc owning several houses, you're looking at several different fcs who use the same tag. It is literally impossible for a fc to occupy more than one plot. This is probably why SE haven't done anything about it because they're not breaking any rules by sharing the same fc tag with their neighbours.
    It's the same FC taking advantage of the system to profit off of workshops. Greed preventing other FC's and players from owning those plots, this is something SE does not want to happen anymore. They put member requirements on owning an FC estate but that wasn't really enough to stop this at all.

    This housing monopoly has been a thing for a while on multiple servers, and you really can't pass this off as just a dozen FC's changing their tag to mew for some reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    It's the same FC taking advantage of the system to profit off of workshops. Greed preventing other FC's and players from owning those plots, this is something SE does not want to happen anymore. They put member requirements on owning an FC estate but that wasn't really enough to stop this at all.

    This housing monopoly has been a thing for a while on multiple servers, and you really can't pass this off as just a dozen FC's changing their tag to mew for some reason.
    As someone on Greg server I can concur. It's the same few people running alternate FCs in addition to a main one with the one tag. Some cases of this are blatant or obvious than others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    This housing monopoly has been a thing for a while on multiple servers, and you really can't pass this off as just a dozen FC's changing their tag to mew for some reason.
    I didn't. I even said it was obvious that this is one group coordinating their efforts. My point is strictly speaking they're not breaking any rules.

    Punishing that fc isn't simple:
    • You can't punish them for owning more than one plot because strictly speaking they don't. It's several fcs with the same tag. Not one fc that broke the game and has several houses.
    • You can't punish players for having a fc with a house on one character, and being in a different fc that also has a house on another. There are many legitimately separate fcs with these exact situations.
    • You can't punish the fcs for funneling their resources to another fc. It is not against any rules to help another fc.
    • You can't punish them for taking over a ward. It's very common for fc members to have their houses in the same ward as their fc house.
    • So what's left then, punish them for sharing the same fc tag? Well then several other fcs who are unaware they share the same tag would be punished too.

    I am not disputing that what that mew fc did is scummy. I'm saying that punishing them isn't a no brainer given that the activities they're doing aren't actually offences.
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    Which is why I said SE needs to take a hard stance on this, and that could be implementing new rules to prevent this, or just flat out saying they can't and aren't going to do anything about it. sure I can see grandfathering in people who had already done this because on a technical level they hadn't broke these new rules or any existing ones, but something needs to be done about it to prevent it happening going forward.
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