Sentinal is a thorn in our sides

[Krausus]

So does every other ability, in fact 41 is the average so it adds no more emnity than the average ability in essence nullifying the effect. Unless you actually believe that they would add that to the description when the new ability generate average emnity. In that case, you win, I'm done as you won't listen to reason.

actually speed surge, life surge, and invigorate will not add any hate. At least in the sense that it will not show you generating hate on a mob (wont change the hate meter from nothing to green)

[Molly_Millions]

actually speed surge, life surge, and invigorate will not add any hate. At least in the sense that it will not show you generating hate on a mob (wont change the hate meter from nothing to green)

do you know what the word average means?

sorry to be an ass, but you are making some pretty illogical arguments. We are comparing the new ability to sentinel not to speed surge.

[Krausus]

do you know what the word average means?

sorry to be an ass, but you are making some pretty illogical arguments. We are comparing the new ability to sentinel not to speed surge.

oh so its ok for you to do it but when someone else does it then it isn't ok?

[Molly_Millions]

oh so its ok for you to do it but when someone else does it then it isn't ok?

I don't follow

[Krausus]

I don't follow

arguing small points that make no difference to the argument.

Also I never meant to come off as hostile to the argument I hope you didn't take it that way, I have no issues with you personally, I just think your argument was moot to the point just as me talking about LNC skills and enmity. I think you probably get that now and I do understand your concerns for mages but it isn't a concern to me because it will more then likely not effect my Ifrit groups. I think it mostly stems from some people hate the fact that Sentinel makes it easier on a group especially those that do not wish to take the time to get the ability in order to be less of a burden on the rest of the group. But flat out saying Sentinel is going away without any evidence of such is wrong.

[Molly_Millions]

But flat out saying Sentinel is going away without any evidence of such is wrong.

Then lets say that sentinel as we know it now is going away and just call it a day. Maybe the new ability is the same as sentinel before 1.17 or whatever, but it's not going to be the same as it is now if it exists at all.

[ninesunz]

Then lets say that sentinel as we know it now is going away and just call it a day. Maybe the new ability is the same as sentinel before 1.17 or whatever, but it's not going to be the same as it is now if it exists at all.

How do you know this?