Sentinal is a thorn in our sides

[MicahZerrshia]

Been playing this game off and on since beta. Never cared for tank jobs in any game so never bothered to pick up gld. Now with it pretty much being a requirement for the Ifrit fight I am stuck slowly lvling it solo since its nearly impossible to get a pt or get someone to take an hr out of their day to burn you up and even tho I finally got it to 30 those last 6 lvls feel like 60.

What I would like to do is spend my time lvling a job I actually WANT to play like lnc or arc but instead Im sitting here getting a few hundred exp per mob with the slow (comparatively) gld kills, listening to my ls talk nothing but Ifrit until I get so annoyed I just log. Its been how long since the update and I still havent fought him all because of freakin sentinal and the fact no one will take me into the fight without it. Driving me freakin crazy. I cant even take the time to help with SH runs because I am stuck slowly creepin up gld. All this game has become for me is the slow gld crawl. Im about ready to walk again.

I know its really not that bad but I really HATE the job of gld and having to spend hour after hour after hour lvling it up solo is completely idiotic. But nope se had to make the hellfire such a pita that you cant enter without a job ability that is lvl 36. /sigh ok my rant is done, carry on.

[Riv]

I forsee a Sentinel nerf. It's kind of silly how "Thwarting enemy attacks with your weapon..." pretty much halves the damage you take from an arena full of flames. lolwut. But then of course the Ifrit fight would ramp up in difficulty quite a bit, and only because of that one move (unless they nerfed it as well) which is also pretty silly. And if it was changed, it would be after the moogle fight is released....in which case not enough ppl would be doing Ifrit anymore for it to matter. The few ppl left doing Ifrit would probably be the ones who were never able to beat it b4 the change (who are mainly the casuals that say it's too difficult in the first place), who would then get fed up with it leaving nobody doing that content anymore....kinda like the Darkhold now. So i guess i don't really know what will happen.

The icing on the cake is that MRD can tank just as well if not better than a GLD, so really the only reason to lvl GLD at all is that single ability.

[Rau]

Don't solo...?

[OMEGA_HACK]

Well never fret, Sentinel is disappearing once 1.20 comes out, yes you read right boys and girls, it is disappearing from our list of obtainable abilities. To elaborate further, directly from the Abilities update:

GLD Ability 1: Temporarily reduces damage you sustain and increases enmity generated by actions executed while effect is active.
GLD Ability 3: [Self AoE] Temporarily increases the defense of all party members within range. Generates massive enmity.


These are the ONLY two GLD defensive abilities. Now let me read you the current GLD defense increasing abilities.

Rampart I/II: Fight to protect yourself, increasing defense and magical defense.
Sentinel: Thwart enemy attacks with your weapon, reducing damage dealt to you.
Obsess I/II: Increases defense against a target and reduces defense against all other targets.
Tempered Will: Increases magic resistance and removes Bind and Heavy effects.

GLD Ability 1 seems like Sentinel (from FFXI)
GLD Ability 3 seems like Rampart (from FFXI)

So either way the current Sentinel is going out the window. The best news we get from this is:

GLD's will be able to give every the buff without us having to level up a class past the half way mark just for a dumb ability that only makes the fight easier...I for one cannot wait for the threads to pour in when the "elites" cannot kill Ifrit with the 7 LNC burn (and this is coming from a LNC50 lol)

[Crux]

Good to hear, I was having fun in this game after just coming back. Hit 50 Conj and then needed to level Gladiator. I hate it, I haven't been playing much and got to level 25 in like three weeks because I just don't want to do it. I hate tank classes, and you should never *make* someone level a class for one ability.

At least they have seen the light and are changing it! Now I will log in and level THM like I wanted to.

[Stufoo]

Sentinel is disappearing once 1.20 comes out, yes you read right boys and girls, it is disappearing from our list of obtainable abilities. To elaborate further, directly from the Abilities update:

GLD Ability 1: Temporarily reduces damage you sustain and increases enmity generated by actions executed while effect is active.

So either way the current Sentinel is going out the window.

How does that make sense to you? GLA Ability 1 is single target, non-exclusive, and reduces the damage you sustain. It may not be -66% but it is still the exact same thing as sentinel. What you should be hoping for is that the ability is level 20 or below, so you don't have to go all the way to 36!!

[MicahZerrshia]

Im glad to hear they are getting rid of it. But on the downside it may make it then impossible to find a pt for Ifrit at all if ppl cant zerg it down with a sentinaled lnc. I have 50 thm con and pug and would love one of those firey weapons. But thm and con are worthless without sentinal and pug, well pug is just completely worthless atm in any situation outside soloing nm for free gear drops...oh wait those are mostly outdated too lol pug cant win

I'd really like to spend time on any other job than gld, meh

[OMEGA_HACK]

@Stufoo,

Read carefully, its not like the current Sentinel...GLD Ability 1 (from the reform notes) specifically says: "...and increases enmity generated by actions executed while effect is active."

Now let's look at the current way Sentinel works: Short duration (good for an incoming known timing blast attack IE: Ifrit's attack, or any boss attack for that matter; which is why the dev's I am sure are getting rid of this ability in the sense of how it current works). Now back to the new ability, it increases enm gained while under its effect, this leads me to believe that we are looking at an ability that lasts for a longer period of time, to help with tanking, hell, GLD Ability 1 could be Defender. Actually after relooking at the MRD abilities, I would say GLD Ability 1 = Defender and GLD Ability 3 = Rampart.

But to recap:
Current Sentinel = short duration, large damage reduction
GLD Ability 1 = mid-long duration, increase enmity, unknown amount damage reduction

therefore Current Sentinel =/= GLD Ability 1

[Rentahamster]

its nearly impossible to get a pt or get someone to take an hr out of their day to burn you up

1. Sit in Uldah
2. /sh Gathering a level 30 experience points party (Do you need it?)
3. wait
4. ???
5. Profit

[OMEGA_HACK]

the ??? is 1-4 hours of additional waiting, lawlz~