Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
As I and many others have said many times. People want rewards that feel valuable and worth something and wont just be tossed the next patch.. Even If you take 370 savage gear what really is it useful or needed for? Everything in the game can be easily smashed with gear 20-30 item levels lower than that.. So you don't need that gear for anything current. And it will be trash when 4.4 lands and people can just buy or craft 380 stuff. Or get it from the normal raids. Thus the gear has no purpose or value.. Which is why these topics keep coming up...

.... which is why people often say glamour is the endgame. Because it's the only thing that has any form of value.

Which is why quite a few players will put significantly more effort into getting a glamour piece than they will getting one that is actually an upgrade..
I'm confused - you never actually answered my question, just restated that you "and many others" feel like the ilvl bump from raid gear isn't worth it because it gets replaced. I get that, you've been a bit of a broken record about it, but I asked what would make it worth it to you.

Based on the part of your post responding to Cass I'm going to assume unique glamor items feel more "worth it" to you because you say it is "the only thing that has any form of value".

EX primals offer unique weapons you can't find elsewhere as well as items for crafting minions and housing items not to mention mounts, all of those are potential vanity items even though the weapons also have value as upgrades. Personally I will be using the Tsukuyomi rapier for a long time as glamour even after it outlives it's usefulness as a weapon.

Savage offers unique weapon and armor sets unobtainable by any other means as well as a mount upon completion of the last tier. While I don't find much of the sigma gear particularly exciting looking I know some people who do.

These items all serve a dual purpose of being unique in appearance and being an upgrade to stats... why are they excluded from your "glamour has value" statement?

I agree - the stats are useless, particularly to someone who doesn't specifically care about completing the content you need to do to get those stats to begin with. If the hardest thing you do is Ridorana of course you don't need 100 more Intelligence. To people who min max though? Or people who want to do as well as they possibly can? Yes, that matters.