There's plenty of midcore raiders I know that went in just to see if they can kill Garuda, and similarly these same people went into Bahamut seeing if they could at least kill Twintania.

They were thrilled when they beat Twintania, lol. Everyone enjoys this content. You'd have to be the most spiteful, salty, player in the world to be **against** ultimate's existence.

They're similarly disappointed with the lack of 4.5 ultimate.