selling wins

[swiss_Momo]

I assume this is in light of the recent plebbit thread about a certain world first FC from Gilgamesh selling stuff for ridiculous prices? Now were did I put that "RMT; botting; hacking; win trading - I sleep. Calling someone stupid or posting lewd mod pics on twitter - real shit" meme pic again....

[KageTokage]

It's unfortunate that they don't seem to care about this at all (Though not that surprising considering how half-hearted their efforts at curbing the botting issues are).

It should be painfully obvious that RMT is involved when you can't trade gil cross-world, plus they're trying to get you discuss it somewhere outside of the game.

[swiss_Momo]

well, in these cases it's not just for Gil, but real money (like 80 USD for Byakko and 1200 USD for Ultimate Ultima) and usually involves giving them access to your account to clear it for you

[Sigma-Astra]

Considering that it's against the ToS to give your account credentials to anyone, the people buying these clears for real money are sabotaging themselves if the raiders decided to take the money and flee.

[Sebazy]

I assume this is in light of the recent plebbit thread about a certain world first FC from Gilgamesh selling stuff for ridiculous prices? Now were did I put that "RMT; botting; hacking; win trading - I sleep. Calling someone stupid or posting lewd mod pics on twitter - real shit" meme pic again....

World second, please

Seriously though, this has been a thing for years now. I've sold content for gil going right back to Titan and yes, I've had people offer me money going as far back as SCOB (Which I refused fyi). Do I think it's a problem? I'll admit I'm not especially keen on pvp win trading but carries? It takes some clutching at straws to find any real issues that could be caused by it.

It's also kind of unfair to pin this on Elysium alone, Hardcores have selling teams, midcores have selling teams. This isn't limited to world progression raiders alone.

[KageTokage]

The fact that people could easily just decide to scam you out of your money is definitely another reason why they should be discouraging the practice.

This isn't like typical RMT where it's fully automated and difficult to keep under control, so there's really no excuse.

[Alleo]

I have no problem if people sell primal runs for Gil. But as soon as money is involved or its about a fight where you can only win if all 8 are top thus they need to pilot the others account, they have taken it too far. Selling it for money is RMT and using another account is also against the ToS. I kinda wonder if some of those top raiders are just angry that they get one Ultimate less because it means one less money input and if they want it stay synched so they can continue to sell clears..(And no I dont mean all top raiders, but those that sell them for money)

Now I wonder if those that sell them and are in the world race are just doing it to get money instead of doing it for the challenge?

And selling PVP ranks is bad for the rest of us because that are less people that can get to the top thus less people that can try to get the mounts in the normal legal way..

[KageTokage]

So, I noticed this just showed up recently: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...d5018ee8fc7b01

Between the reddit post about people selling UwU clears, JP bloggers bringing up the reddit post, and this post being made, I doubt it's a coincidence.

Of course, this doesn't actually mean anything is going to change, considering how they decided to be less transparent about the number of bans being issued for botting after people complained on a large scale, yet none of the regulars on my server have been touched still, and the number of bots has actually gone up significantly instead.

[Celef]

World second, please

Seriously though, this has been a thing for years now. I've sold content for gil going right back to Titan and yes, I've had people offer me money going as far back as SCOB (Which I refused fyi). Do I think it's a problem? I'll admit I'm not especially keen on pvp win trading but carries? It takes some clutching at straws to find any real issues that could be caused by it.

It's also kind of unfair to pin this on Elysium alone, Hardcores have selling teams, midcores have selling teams. This isn't limited to world progression raiders alone.

The real issue is not selling run for Gils, but selling runs for real money, wich is against the TOS

[lulunami]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...d5018ee8fc7b01 Dated June 18, 2018.

We would like to remind our players that any actions relating to the trading of real money for in-game benefits or services (commonly referred to as “RMT”) are prohibited under the Terms of Service.

We will take stringent disciplinary action against any accounts we confirm are involved in RMT, up to and including a permanent ban for infringing accounts. Players should take care to steer clear of any activity that violates the Terms of Service.

Should you witness actions related to RMT, such as advertisements within the game leading to external services via Say, Shout, Tell, and Yell, you can report them by right clicking the character name in the chat log and selecting the menu [Report] -> [Report RMT Activity].

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