Lack of midcore content

[Colt47]

I've had some really bad experiences doing Ex trials that were reminiscent of playing with people in Call of Duty on the Xbox 360 and world of warcraft. I've had people throw "soy boy" around in chat along with insults and political garbage or just being plane passive aggressive. Often this is paired with people marking a group as a clear group instead of a farm group when SE implemented the "Duty Completion" flag among other issues.

The problem right now is that SE wants to drip feed content and put a carrot on a stick to get people into that content. They aren't releasing Anemos because they want everyone who wants a weapon doing Tsukiyomi EX first, which sounds backwards and basically trying to force people back into the old raid guild mindset of 2009-2012. I don't want to feel like I need to start chugging 5 hour energy drinks after work to spend time grinding ex content just to make sure I don't miss the wave on them. The entire reason people like anemos is that it's easy to step into, can be done when you're not at your best, and lets you make progress incrementally. EX content is all or nothing and promotes some really toxic experiences.

I mean, they are hold back the new endless dungeon, too, and that probably has the same hard mode floors past the top like POTD did, which is basically mid-core content.

[Squintina]

Do not under estimate the power that the word "savage" can have on someone

Tell them to get over the word lol. O7S and O8S are definitely harder than Extreme trials. O5S can also be harder/easier just depending on how good people are at learning and dealing with mechs (specifically remembering Remorse, which has wiped plenty of PF groups I've had the leisure of joining in for funsies). If this is the kind of mech they can handle, then it's also an extreme level. If it's not, then it's a savage level.

But not being willing to try just because of the word and then they tell you there's nothing to do, well that's just strange.

But you do have the other options of doing old trials synced, as stated in the post.

And if you really can't, and you're all drinking age...Well, I've had a lot of fun doing Normals while at least 4 people in my party were intoxicated Dealing with people messing up because of drunkenness can add a real level of difficulty.

[HoodRat]

I thought savage was midcore.

[Mikhaill]

There needs to be harder 4 man content if anything.
I can barely stomach the regular dungeon runs. @_@

[Rockette]

I thought savage was midcore.

It used to be. They've tuned it way down since creator. Now the first two turns are barely harder than an average primal.

[Paladinleeds]

Overall, yes I think there is now a lack of midcore content. But I don't think SE can put anymore in with out vocal casual players complaining content is too unaccessible.

I feel like they need to up the difficulty and if the vocal casual players start complaining, just have Yoshi P reply to them saying "git gud, it ain't changing". Heck, I've even said in another thread how I feel difficulty should go. Normal mode is Savage 1-2 difficulty, Savage is Savage Coil difficulty, and Ultimate is well, Ultimate. Not sure where to place extreme primals in though...

[Rockette]

I feel like they need to up the difficulty and if the vocal casual players start complaining, just have Yoshi P reply to them saying "git gud, it ain't changing". Heck, I've even said in another thread how I feel difficulty should go. Normal mode is Savage 1-2 difficulty, Savage is Savage Coil difficulty, and Ultimate is well, Ultimate. Not sure where to place extreme primals in though...

I think they're trying to do a mix with extreme primals. Susano was much more of a heals/dps check than Lakshmi. Shinryu was a mechanics check. Byakko is pants on head easy. Tsukuyomi is somewhere inbetween Susano and Shinryu.

I don't mind this way of doing things. A mix is nice.

[RiyahArp]

I feel like they need to up the difficulty and if the vocal casual players start complaining, just have Yoshi P reply to them saying "git gud, it ain't changing"

do you do trial roulette frequently? Have you spent a lot of time doing castrim flummins? I've had runs time out because of that last phase. People will leave trials if there is one wipe. And you want to make casual content harder? No one would do it.

[Driskus]

I do wish they would actually make "Hard" dungeons somewhat difficult, and not just 3x as faceroll easy as their normal counterparts due to either a total lack of ilvl sync, or a level set so high that you can ignore most mechanics and still not wipe.

[Ekimmak]

I do wish they would actually make "Hard" dungeons somewhat difficult, and not just 3x as faceroll easy as their normal counterparts due to either a total lack of ilvl sync, or a level set so high that you can ignore most mechanics and still not wipe.

Hard modes aren't supposed to be harder. They're supposed to be revamped versions of those dungeons for a higher iLevel sync.