No cleric stance, next should be no tank stance?

[ManuelBravo]

you're not using Shirk right.



And this makes it sound like you've never played with NINs that do their jobs right either. An OT can't take hate away from the main tank if the OT Shirks most of their hate to the MT every time they come close.

First yes I do use Shirk ( Don't recall if it's still 25% enmity diversion or it has been increased ) just does not help when MT can't do their job properly and you are correct I have not played with a Decent NIN while tanking only helped as NIN to help MT feel more competent -.-; Best solution give them tips, if Not I just take over. Only thing you can do really. It's even dumber when their making the healers job harder by not being properly gear thinking they are helping the situation.