[Request] Can we have more race-specific hairstyles?

[alimdia]

If the problem is low effort on cat ears why not ask for better quality hairstyles? They didn't cut corners with universal hairstyles before, if they are doing it now the answer is not to get rid of universal hairstyles, the answer is to ask them to stop cutting corners.

[Duskane]

No, because race-lock hairstyles of all things to emphasise lore

it really doesn't that's like saying Asian people cant have a Afro or a girl cant have short hair because it doesn't represent there heritage .Head bands ,clips and pins do not emphasis lore
and about the Au ra horns in the hair they don't even match the Au ra main horns there is one white horn hair style for Male au ra and i think only 2 for females and its a completely different color scheme to the horns themselves be better off just removing them from the hair style completely and these horns are clearly minor since we can apparently just take them off when we want a different hair cut

A characters physical appearance is not everything for lore its the history of said characters that do

[MOZZYSTAR]

it really doesn't that's like saying Asian people cant have a Afro or a girl cant have short hair because it doesn't represent there heritage .Head bands ,clips and pins do not emphasis lore
and about the Au ra horns in the hair they don't even match the Au ra main horns there is one white horn hair style for Male au ra and i think only 2 for females and its a completely different color scheme to the horns themselves be better off just removing them from the hair style completely and these horns are clearly minor since we can apparently just take them off when we want a different hair cut

A characters physical appearance is not everything for lore its the history of said characters that do

Fun fact: we have afro hair at the Gold Saucer. And I don't think you quite understand what I'm saying and taking it to the extreme, but that's okay. I'll let you think that.

If the problem is low effort on cat ears why not ask for better quality hairstyles? They didn't cut corners with universal hairstyles before, if they are doing it now the answer is not to get rid of universal hairstyles, the answer is to ask them to stop cutting corners.

There really is no "problem" in my request (a request is a request, not a demand or a suggestion because "something's broken!"). I would just like to see them. Others would like to see them for tailor-made, yes. It's also not just Miqo'te. Au Ra look pretty strange in quite a few of the neutral styles as well thanks to their horns. Yeah, they can make it "tailored/better quality" but that's not the only issue. -Stares at meatball head-
v Quoting for your convenience

Au Ra have horns, Miqo'te have cat ears, Roegadyn have a zig zag shaped hairline, Hyur have small ears which can easily be covered by hair and Elezen+Lalafell have bigger and pointed ears. It would be nice to have hairstyles designed with these unique aspects in mind. Sometimes shared styles just don't work, like the meatball hair.

[New_Game_Plus]

No thank you.

[Tsumdere]

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She was saying that you are requesting this because your problem with hairstyles is that they look funny on Miqo'te. I could get behind asking SE do better mesh work on their hairstyles. Not so much taking something that could be solved quickly and leave options open for people to the extreme by making everyone different hairstyles.

Anyways, I have a legit question. If they were to make racially locked hairstyles, which clan and culture would they choose? Each of the races can be divided into at least two different clans that do not share culture, even more if we are bringing in other nationalities. Hyurs, for example, can be Eorzean, Ala Mhigan, Thavnarian, Sharlayan... Sharlayan Hyurs would not wear their hair the same as an Ala Mhigan so which hairstyle would we get? Would it just be a generic one? Which would wrap back around to, if it's so generic and non-specific to a culture like they are now, why can't the other races cut their hair that way?

[Magic-Mal]

Clans

This is a huge one. Anything race-locked due to "culture" immediately falls flat due to the fact that both clans of each race share the same hair and clothing which is darn impossible if they are supposed to be culturally unique.

[Tracewood]

There's a lack of short spikey hair styles, though maybe that trend has died off tremendously if current anime trends say anything. Not just anime, older videogames from Japan were chock full of spikey headed protagonists, now everyone looks like they're trying to be fashion models while still in high school.

[MOZZYSTAR]

Please forgive me for my massive post...orz
TLDR; Race-specific hair and generalized hair are not mutually exclusively, and SE makes enough hairstyles in a year where they could still prioritise generalised hairstyles while adding a race-specific style here and there. If they were to update race-specific hairstyles and/or include more, it would not affect us receiving new generalised styles.

She was saying that you are requesting this because your problem with hairstyles is that they look funny on Miqo'te.

Please read my other posts because that's clearly not what I've been saying, thanks. I want to see more race-specific styles for all races, not just Miqo'te. While I don't expect anyone to know this, I play three characters: a miqo'te, a roe, and an au ra. I am not biased to only one race and I am not requesting this for only one race. That would defeat the purpose. If I was, I’d say “make more hairstyles specifically for Miqo’te!” Okay?


So, why am I requesting for this? As I’ve previously mentioned: 1.) Because most of the races have not been updated in 4-5 years, 2.) we've received 30+ new hair styles since sometime after 2.0 (all together, we have about 40-50+ neutral styles, meanwhile some races only have 4-6 race-specific styles) yet haven't received any new race-specific styles , 3.) they're going to continue to make hair anyway, so why not add a few more race-specific styles along the way, right?


It doesn’t threaten you, your rewards, or your game (or the game as a whole), so why debate it? Seriously, I would love to know - aside from shallow reasons - why it's such a hard-no for people to include a few more race-specific hairstyles? It really should not be this big of a deal. XD

Let's put this into perspective, shall we? (Mind you, I'm not 100% sure if this information is 100% accurate because the styles in older races are not well-organised. Some look to be race or gender-locked, when they’re shared among a few races & genders, like the female Elezen’s bald style can be worn by male Roe and male highlanders. I'm trying not to include gender-lock styles and styles that only show up for 2+ races, but may have accidentally included them here and there.)
1.) Lala (m&f) have 3-4 styles respectively, Miqo'tes (m&f) have approx. 4-5, Hyur high/mid (f) have approx 6-7 (some might be gender-locked and not race), Hyur high & mid (m) 3-4, Roe (f&m) have about 7, Au Ra (f&m) have 7-8, and Elezen (m&f) have about 6, etc.

So, nearly half of them have 4 or less race-specific styles, meanwhile we have about 40+ neutral styles (not including the styles that aren’t seen in every single race) and this number (40+) will only increase in due time.

Let's engage our inner Construct 7. Say we started getting new hair around HW for the sake of ease (rounding up, pretty sure the first one was somewhere in the 2's). So last year SB just released, two years before that HW was released...That's three years...We have about 30+ new styles since the late 2's (so nearly 3 or so years ago), so... we've received approximately (going with average, not actuality) 10+ hairstyles per year. I think you can sacrifice maybe 2-3 slots in that yearly quota for race specific styles. Sharing is commendable. /salutes/ With that in perspective, including more styles other than just “general” really shouldn’t hurt you. You’d still be getting hairstyles for customisation. There really is no loss or threat.

(I also can’t believe I’m debating hair of all things… like… what have I stooped to? LOL. I’ve already said my piece. My request will probably always stand. I just… don’t really care to keep arguing over hair.)

[Magic-Mal]

(I also can’t believe I’m debating hair of all things… like… what have I stooped to? LOL. I’ve already said my piece. My request will probably always stand. I just… don’t really care to keep arguing over hair.)

That's completely fair. People will agree and people will disagree with never-changing opinions. People have been arguing about unlocking stuff forever now and it's the same talks by the same people with the same opinions every time and that won't change any time soon!

What really matters in the end is whatever the devs do, good or bad.. and I say this as someone who can't help but post in these topics lol.

[Tsumdere]

It doesn’t threaten you, your rewards, or your game (or the game as a whole), so why debate it? Seriously, I would love to know - aside from shallow reasons - why it's such a hard-no for people to include a few more race-specific hairstyles? It really should not be this big of a deal. XD

I did not say you were biased to Miqo'te. Neither did she. I am against the idea even if it included all races because it does affect my game in a way. It limits everyone's customization, including mine.
My problem is there is no basis for what hairstyles they would choose for each race because there is absolutely zero cultural backing behind any specific type of style so they would pick styles at random to lock. Can you imagine the absolute madhouse it would be if the new braid hairstyle was Roe female only just because? Or if the new flippy hair was just Lalafell male? I should not have to feel cheated based on the race I chose because this patch they gave the crappy hairstyles to Elezen and everyone else got good ones.

I take this from personal experience because I have played games where they did things like this, and it devolved pretty quickly into just not making unique things for lesser played races because no one used them. It's a slippery slope argument, but I have definitely seen it happen and I do not doubt for a second that SE would cut corners like that.

All I am saying there is no reason for there to be race locks besides 'you want it' as every argument for it falls flat. There is no lore reason. There is no tech reason (the only outlier being Miqo'te/Au Ra bald hairstyle probably having a few issues). There is no monetary reason for SE to do it either (would cost more money and time to please a few/make many disappointed).

And as much as you are allowed to request this, others are allowed to say 'no thank you'.