Lupin - make it a playable race!

[Trixie_Strider]

...Is that you, Xeno?
Also, skin/fur colour is a non-issue. Roegadyn Sea Wolves are just different shades of green, for example. Hairstyles is the only issue, but if SE are smart about it, they could use real dogs as an example (seriously, depending on the breed, some dogs are capable of having hairstyles if the owner chooses to). Alleo also mentioned braids.

Sigh...it's not going to work. It really isn't, some of you are fanatical if you think the devs are going to ignore hair and replace it by looking at breeds of dog. If you do this you're already making Lupins non Lore friendly. Practiclly breaking the meta.

Like adding mods to a game that's not suppose to have said features. It just doesn't make sense.

Ps. Who's Xeno?

[Corue]

...Is that you, Xeno?

I knew I wasn't the only one thinking that.

[Sigma-Astra]

I knew I wasn't the only one thinking that.

I didn't want to say anything either....

[Trixie_Strider]

...Is that you, Xeno?

I knew I wasn't the only one thinking that.

I didn't want to say anything either....

...who in the world is Xeno? >:T

[Nestama]

Sigh...it's not going to work. It really isn't, some of you are fanatical if you think the devs are going to ignore hair and replace it by looking at breeds of dog. If you do this you're already making Lupins non Lore friendly. Practiclly breaking the meta.

Ps. Who's Xeno?

See, you're not visualising it. Imagine a Lupin who chooses not to trim their fur when it gets too long (assuming they don't shed). Now imagine them stylising it to look similar to how other races stylise it (pretty sure we use magical-permanent gel for some hairstyles... like the bouncy pompadour).

Xeno (not their FFXIV in-game name probably. I don't think anyone knows who their characters are) is someone who kinda makes posts similar to the one you made on the previous page (regarding Viera and maybe the 'delusion' comment), though they occasionally tend to take it a step too far.

[ArcaneCarbuncle]

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... And you just literally ignored 90% of what I said. Fine, I'm not gonna argue in circles.
I will leave this though: They will not do any big retcons of lore to fit any race into the game. Should they ever add another race, they will add one thats appealing to a wide audience while taking the least amount of work possible. I still don't see Lupin fitting that.
You also seem to confuse lore (overall history/background of the world) with the Player characters personal story within said world. Both of these affect each other, as they should; but they don't technically break each other.

The end all be all is that race never was and never will be taken into account for story and the most we get is little comments such as the ones from the Kojin quest. Its excessive to get in a huff over this especially with lore reasons when the people who have the ability to add them can do whatever they wish to fit them in.

We are playing a game that ignores player race harder than skyrim which is a real feat. For any race being added if it happens then it happens, if it does not then it does not and it will as always ignore lore no matter what it ends up being. Its better to leave the lore talk to the lore section since when it comes to player race lore is painfully irrelevant.

Yeah, you're taking Lore much to lightly here. It is true that the game doesnt make much of a distiction between spoken races(i.e. playable races); it does however make a distinction between human and beastraces, which is my problem here. It is hardly as 'painfully irrelevant' as you try to suggest.
But hey, if you're fine with a game that doesn't give a crap about its own story, be my guest; if this game ever gets to that point however, I'm likely one of the first out of the door.
So I'd like to avoid that.

Exactly. Hell, not even Yugiri throughout the 2.2-2.5 quests takes note of you being an Au Ra, which she is trying to hide (aside from her tail). If SE really wanted to, they could have made some Au Ra exclusive cutscenes where Yugiri reveals herself sooner. They've done this before, but so far only Jobs and Alisae (there's apparently three kinds of cutscenes with her depending on your Coil progress) where cutscenes have different dialogue depending on what Job you are, or what progress you've made.

As for Yugiri; I actually am inclined to agree. They handled that kinda crappy, but I'd hope they know that themselves and do it better for whatever next race they may or may not decide to release.
Alisaie/Jobstory: None of these affect the overall world lore though, only the WoLs personal story. Which is a stark difference from having to blatantly ignore/change established lore as they'd have to in order to include Lupin amogst the other playable races.

"But the lore" honestly stopped being a thing to me the second they let certain mounts fly. They try to make sense of it (Ananta sewing enchanted carpets onto elephants back, T-rex being over exposed to aether, etc), but it's really just an excuse.

Well, to me, a Lore argument is much more valid than trying to excuse things that'd make no sense by stating that other items of questionable canoninity are stupid.
Just because some things are dumb doesn't mean everything has to be.
But to each their own.

I would honestly rather that they, oh I don't know.....add more depth towards their existing races than just blatantly shoehorn in another new race which will become just as lacking in lore and customization options as the rest of the races are already. They shoe-horned Au Ra into HW and we really didn't get anything else regarding their culture until SB. That's a bigger problem.

Meanwhile, the rest of other races from ARR are left to rot on the side. There's so much more that could be added to them rather than a new race completely.

I can overall agree with this. I would however have to ask: Why not both?
Its not that they'd haveto come up with completely new stuff for already existing races; they already have plenty of lore on them. They just have to make use of it more ingame rather then hiding it away in lorebooks at best and somewhere in their documents folder at worst.

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Final thoughts, because I neither have the time nor enough of a horse in this race to care all that much:
If SE ever decides to throw the Lupin - or any beastrace for that matter - in as a playable race, I'd like for them to at least make proper sense of it in the lore. Preferably without breaking it.
Because I like the lore. I care about it. Its one of the reasons why I play this game over other MMOs. And I'd like for the (fictional) world I spend my time in to keep making sense.

[LeonTrifang]

YES PLEEEEEEASE MAKE IT PLEASE

[Leloa]

Lol what a backwards response, gee you're making me laugh my head off.

Hm hm...so let me get this straight.

Viera: Wonderful backstory, rich ff history, disguishable featuresm customizable hair, amazonian women, fierce warriors, community following with over 200+ pages and counting of support.

Vs

This person's delusion of Lupin: hmmm let's see....they're wolf people...they're grey....no hair customization....uuuh fur.....

.....did I miss anything?

You can laugh like I give a crap kid. But just saying whats there, if they'd make a poll in Japan which one would be the new race Viera would win. Just saying which is more popular that is all.

[Corue]

...who in the world is Xeno? >:T

If we're thinking of the same person,Xeno is an infamous poster on the GameFAQa FF14 board who clogs up tbe board with "make viera pls" threads and physically cannot understand any post that doesn't imply that Viera are God's gift to mankind.

[Yenyen]

Could make a robot that's about it or expand on current preset options, the general options that come to mind collide with current races , no too wolfy because kittys and as much as I'd like it no to lala sized kittys either