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    Accolades's Avatar
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    I completely agree this ability should be removed they should never make abilities that control the actions of another character in any mmo. On my healer I will never use this ability and pretend its not even there. The moment anyone uses it on me regardless of the situation they will be reported.
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    Warrior Lv 90
    You mention the success rate of Rescue being small. Well, I feel inclined to argue the the troll rate of Rescue users is more than likely to be just as small.

    Either way, it doesn't matter. A troll is a troll. The fact that they decided to use Rescue in the middle of a fight and got you killed isn't worth fussing about.

    That's like complaining about a tank using Limit Break in the middle of a fight that doesn't require using it. Or worse - a non-tank using Limit Break before an important Limit Break mechanic (Alexander). Does this mean we should get rid of Limit Break mechanics?

    Also, a healer doesn't need Rescue to troll you. They can choose just to literally not heal you in the fight. You know, as "punishment". And then what? Are you going to cry about how healers should be removed from the game?

    Basically, the point I'm trying to make is that the problem isn't with the Recue ability - it's with the player that decides to troll. And the way you deal with those players is by kicking them from your party.
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    Ein Vaer
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    Scholar Lv 90
    It's pretty useful in the new EX primal and helping BRD/MCH since they don't have knockback immunity or gap closers.

    I don't see it used often honestly. It's hard to fit into cross skills with other mandatory choices filling up almost half the slots most of the time so that stops people from slotting it in the first place.

    Shame that some people use it for trolling but the same could be said for Shirk. I don't think it has to be removed, just remove the player if they are intentionally doing it and causing problems.
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    Last edited by Vaer; 06-06-2018 at 12:32 AM.

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    Nephthys Yamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    It's pretty useful in the new EX primal and helping BRD/MCH since they don't have knockback immunity or gap closers.

    I don't see it used often honestly. It's hard to fit into cross skills with other mandatory choices filling up almost half the slots most of the time so that stops people from slotting it in the first place.

    Shame that some people use it for trolling but the same could be said for Shirk. I don't think it has to be removed, just remove the player if they are intentionally doing it and causing problems.
    Reasoning its not used is A: it takes a role slot B: its got a 3 minute cooldown..its not like you can use it frequently..which makes the OP's point all the worse for it.
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    Nana Hya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    Shame that some people use it for trolling but the same could be said for Shirk. I don't think it has to be removed, just remove the player if they are intentionally doing it and causing problems.
    Indeed, when I first saw with my own eyes people trolling others with it, I didn't mind much, even after it was used on me for trolling purpose the very first time it was actually used on me.
    But this time, it was 2 players that had grouped together, that acted like princesses... enough.

    As for role skills, it's completely useless, remove it and it won't hurt anybody : it is just a under alternative for some very occasional situations.
    As for the "I use it to save my sprouts"... please stop, that's just an argument for the sake of giving one.... just do it like we did before : let him die and learn.
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    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moogly View Post
    Indeed, when I first saw with my own eyes people trolling others with it, I didn't mind much, even after it was used on me for trolling purpose the very first time it was actually used on me.
    But this time, it was 2 players that had grouped together, that acted like princesses... enough.

    As for role skills, it's completely useless, remove it and it won't hurt anybody : it is just a under alternative for some very occasional situations.
    As for the "I use it to save my sprouts"... please stop, that's just an argument for the sake of giving one.... just do it like we did before : let him die and learn.
    Yes..we should remove it based on your one little sorry story...totally rational and perfect argument.
    Condemn a perfectly fine skill because someone get killed over it.

    Yeah I think we've seen enough here.

    File a petition with a GM and move along. This thread is condemned the same as the rest of the "remove rescue" skill threads...to the troll bin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    Condemn a perfectly fine skill because someone get killed over it.
    Indeed you need to read before going all emo.
    It's about trolling and harassement. Dont divert the subject to skills or w/e, like I'm a noob and frustrated about something I can't do....
    You're yourself a troll by making me say all kind of nonsense... like I reacted only because of that single particular experience when I'm clearly talking about many encouters, statistics....

    Please stop, you don't know what you're talking about.
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    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moogly View Post
    Indeed you need to read before going all emo.
    It's about trolling and harassement. Dont divert the subject to skills or w/e, like I'm a noob and frustrated about something I can't do....
    You're yourself a troll by making me say all kind of nonsense... like I reacted only because of that single particular experience when I'm clearly talking about many encouters, statistics....

    Please stop, you don't know what you're talking about.
    You where saying nonsense from the start.

    I have yet to see anyone actually support your opinion in the first place. And even if you do...they are out numbered...and out gunned.

    Good luck with your tilting windmill attempt.
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    It's pretty useful in the new EX primal and helping BRD/MCH since they don't have knockback immunity or gap closers.

    I don't see it used often honestly. It's hard to fit into cross skills with other mandatory choices filling up almost half the slots most of the time so that stops people from slotting it in the first place.

    Shame that some people use it for trolling but the same could be said for Shirk. I don't think it has to be removed, just remove the player if they are intentionally doing it and causing problems.
    Don't ranged physical have arms length for the same standard knockback immunity? I think all roles have it in one form or another. Though yeah, they don't get to dash around like dancers do.
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    My statics scholar is using it in O6S to pull me back to the boss after I took that second whirlwind-thingie by myself. I like that. Dont take it away from me.
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