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    Ruf's Avatar
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    Rufuso Aesir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikuide View Post
    That's where based FFLogs comes in. Take your PLD on Kefka Story as an example.
    ??? This almost looks like you spy & stalk me? Are you saying that you checked my performance on a third party program? Excuse me? I do not reprisal or shirk? For one, I do not use Shirk that is correct,so this right there almost confirm that you snoopin on me,for two I do not need to say why, i have nothing to justify there (I do not need to justify anything to you or even others) but my reply is to claim that if I really needed to I would, as you said toward me: it's story mode and you get the kill & you claiming that: however you make the fight more difficult/longer for everyone else involved whilst contributing very little yourself IT IS HIGHLY INNAPROPRIATED because there is far more variables to what you said, its not that i cant toggle stance as much as i want + who tells you I even tryed to optimise my dps at that moment? I am a TANK in a NONE SAVAGE FIGHT doing my job which is TANKING & DODGING mechanics, as far as you know i could of been picking up my boogers (My nose, My fingers.) while "you" were recording my stats...Divine veil once in 9+min? WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE WHAT I DO? If i dont divine veil at all that belongs to me, again was I mendatory required to do this? you speaking about my cooldowns or my use of gauge abilitys is completly misplaced as I have said before:
    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    content such as savage content & what not when I dont even care about doing it myself + even if I was, you have no way of gauging my claims but by your intuition & other means that could be borderline limit,,,
    Your example was in no way a savage or a several fights farming at all,that was regular (IF things were different maybe i would care, but they are not), & i have 0 care about what you typed even if you added numbers IT MEANS NOTHING "to insult me I would first have to value your opinion" for me to value your opinion I would first have to care that this random ass person online is worth the comments they made."
    As i said already:
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    If I want to know my % I will ask ok? tyvm
    &
    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    take your logs & go home with it.
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    Last edited by Ruf; 06-04-2018 at 12:03 PM.

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    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    ??? This almost looks like you spy & stalk me? Are you saying that you checked my performance on a third party program? Excuse me? I do not reprisal or shirk? For one, I do not use Shirk that is correct,so this right there almost comfirm that you snoopin on me,for two I do not need to say why, i have nothing to justify there (I do not need to justify anything to you or even others) but my reply is to claim that if I really needed to I would, as you said toward me: it's story mode and you get the kill & you claiming that: however you make the fight more difficult/longer for everyone else involved whilst contributing very little yourself IT IS HIGHLY INNAPROPRIATED because theres far more variables to what you said, its not that i cant toggle stance as much as i want + who tells you i even tryed to optimise my dps at that moment? I am a TANK in a NONE SAVAGE FIGHT doing my job which is TANKING & DODGING mechanics, as far as you know i could of been picking up my boogers (My nose, My fingers) while "you" were recording my stats...Divine veil once in 9+min? WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE WHAT I DO? If i dont divine veil at all that belongs to me, again was I mendatory required to do this? you speaking about my cooldowns or my use of gauge abilitys is completly misplaces as i have said before:
    The issue is you claim to be not new but you are playing in such a way that it seems like you don't understand your skills or role.

    Let's take Shirk for example - assuming you were the offtank in the fight Rikuide brings up you can use Provoke and then Shirk the main tank to feed him enmity for no cost. This way he doesn't have to spam his aggro combo and you are helping to protect the rest of the party. Provoke will bring you up to right above the main tank in enmity for a second and then when you Shirk him you're basically giving him back whatever Shirk gives, I think 20 or 25 percent. This is something people would generally expect a tank to know and do, it's just a common courtesy to your main tank. The fact that you don't do it while claiming you don't need any help is... troubling.

    No one is saying you are required to do any of this, the issue is when you don't do these things but then claim to be as or more knowledgable or skilled than players who, frankly, are playing better than you are from an objective standpoint.

    Basically don't talk big if you can't back it up. You play like a newer player, that is fine, but if someone tells you that or tries to offer advice (as many people have, myself included) you don't get to snap back as if you are an experienced player who knows just as much. You aren't. You don't. Thats okay, everyone starts somewhere. No one will shame you for being inexperienced but they will shame you for being arrogant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    The issue is you claim to be not new but you are playing in such a way that it seems like you don't understand your skills or role.

    Let's take Shirk for example - assuming you were the offtank in the fight Rikuide brings up you can use Provoke and then Shirk the main tank to feed him enmity for no cost. This way he doesn't have to spam his aggro combo and you are helping to protect the rest of the party. Provoke will bring you up to right above themain tank in enmity for a second and then when you Shirk him you're basically giving him back whatever Shirk gives, I think 20 or 25 percent. This is something people would generally expect a tank to know and do, it's just a common courtesy to your main tank. The fact that you don't do it while claiming you don't need any help is... troubling.

    No one is saying you are required to do any of this, the issue is when you don't do these things but then claim to be as or more knowledgable or skilled than players who, frankly, are playing better than you are from an objective standpoint.

    Basically don't talk big if you can't back it up. You play like a newer player, that is fine, but if someone tells you that or tries to offer advice (as many people have, myself included) you don't get to snap back as if you are an experienced player who knows just as much. You aren't. You don't. Thats okay, everyone starts somewhere. No one will shame you for being inexperienced but they will shame you for being arrogant.
    YOU HAVE NOTHING TO TEACH ME, & EVEN IF YOU DID, I WOULD NOT TAKE ANY ADVICE FROM YOU.
    (So NO i wont talk shirk for an example with you)
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    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    YOU HAVE NOTHING TO TEACH ME, & EVEN IF YOU DID, I WOULD NOT TAKE ANY ADVICE FROM YOU.
    (So NO i wont talk shirk for an example with you)
    Relax? >.>

    Honestly, it's a game. I was perfectly respectful. Maybe don't cop such an attitude if you don't want to get it thrown back at you.
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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    YOU HAVE NOTHING TO TEACH ME, & EVEN IF YOU DID, I WOULD NOT TAKE ANY ADVICE FROM YOU.
    (So NO i wont talk shirk for an example with you)
    Good to know you hate your cotanks. And your team.

    Here I thought you were a stand-up guy.
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Good to know you hate your cotanks. And your team.

    Here I thought you were a stand-up guy.
    Right? Like why not just take some knowledge, not play as if you only have 4 buttons to hit, and roll with it to expand everyone's experience. SMH no idea how people can hate learning how to play at a 3rd grade level so much and hate their fellow co-tanks :c
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    Quote Originally Posted by SombraRose View Post
    Right? Like why not just take some knowledge, not play as if you only have 4 buttons to hit, and roll with it to expand everyone's experience. SMH no idea how people can hate learning how to play at a 3rd grade level so much and hate their fellow co-tanks :c
    Yeah, he's not on my datacentre so I don't have to worry but if he was I'd log his name. If I end up in a duty with him that's a 30 minute penalty I'm taking without remorse. If you're struggling, fine no issues, we'll work with that (if disability causes you to struggle, that's captured under the same wing, as someone with a disability myself I know that it can severely affect how well you play). An old habit you keep slipping back into? It happens, but just try your best to break it. So long as you're trying, I don't got an issue with you. If for example you forgot to pack shirk before a fight started... yeah it happens to the best of us, no biggie there either.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    Yeah, he's not on my datacentre so I don't have to worry but if he was I'd log his name. If I end up in a duty with him that's a 30 minute penalty I'm taking without remorse. If you're struggling, fine no issues, we'll work with that (if disability causes you to struggle, that's captured under the same wing, as someone with a disability myself I know that it can severely affect how well you play). An old habit you keep slipping back into? It happens, but just try your best to break it. So long as you're trying, I don't got an issue with you. If for example you forgot to pack shirk before a fight started... yeah it happens to the best of us, no biggie there either.
    I will gladly not play with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    YOU HAVE NOTHING TO TEACH ME, & EVEN IF YOU DID, I WOULD NOT TAKE ANY ADVICE FROM YOU.
    Magnifique.

    You, sir, are quite literally everything I hate about a bad player. Congratulation.

    /clap
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    Player
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asiragan View Post
    Magnifique.

    You, sir, are quite literally everything I hate about a bad player. Congratulation.

    /clap
    Was that comment replying to you?Was it your name I stated?That you was toward MoroMurasaki(I could start editing a list of names i guess...Parsers style! Dont invite that person,dismiss that person,leave because of that person as they do 4k!).I would say ty for the magnifique comment but instead i will say that your definition of a bad player probably\more than likely differ over my definition of a bad player.In the end its amazing how """almost everyone think they know best because of a program they use that they should not even use to begin with"""~& yes, some do without also~

    Quote Originally Posted by HoodRat View Post
    You obviously care a great deal or you wouldn't have given such a hostile response, let alone reply at all.
    I also do not care much about the players "jabs&stabs" at me & manipulations attempts toward a great number of players reading on here, but the topic do offend me as its somewhat calling some players garbage,& no i do not feel pointed out by the garbage term at all.
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    Last edited by Ruf; 06-04-2018 at 05:04 PM.

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