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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    I don't have a problem with being parsed. I think it has its uses. I don't think it's a good idea to put it in game, but it can be helpful, and if someone wants to know their numbers, they should.
    So you think it's okay that some people have parsers now but it wouldn't be okay for everyone to have access to the same tools?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctusT View Post

    Perhaps it was in bad taste but I hope this explains why I called him out and why I'm not apologizing for it.
    Fair enough, I get your point and as someone that with other capable friends, (tries to) carry less capable friends through content I do understand how frustrating it can be to wipe due not meeting the dps check. Not sure if said this before I do not disagree with your statement or position, while I do not agree with the means as to which it was handled I do understand. Thanks for taking the time to explain it, and I am sure if said player read your post they would also understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    So you think it's okay that some people have parsers now but it wouldn't be okay for everyone to have access to the same tools?
    As long as you are on PC you have access. Not our fault there is no community driven option for a PS4 parser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    I do agree with this. If we could get something similar to Duty Recorder where its an opt-in system for Savage and Ex only, I think that would be the best middle ground that we could get. Even better if the devs could work with the ACT model that already exists.
    I think this is a step in the right direction but it still doesn't address the idea that players will be getting virtually no feedback on their performance until they reach the first part of the game where performance matters.

    The bare minimum I find acceptable would be giving everyone a solo parser throughout the game that measures potency per second so it remains gear and party composition agnostic. This way the only ignorance that prevails would be willful ignorance - you would be presented with your pps relavent to average and top pps for a particular instance on your job. No names, nothing party-wide when it doesn't need to be.

    EX and Savage would ideally get the full function, even only on an opt-in basis.

    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    As long as you are on PC you have access. Not our fault there is no community driven option for a PS4 parser.
    I didn't blame you but plenty of players play on ps4, myself included. Others I know can play on PC but their computer can't handle running FF and ACT together. To give an advantage only to people with the money to buy it seems shitty no matter how you spin it.

    Hell, with this logic just cancel ps4 support for the game - you can play it on pc after all, not our fault it isn't available on ps4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    I didn't blame you but plenty of players play on ps4, myself included. Others I know can play on PC but their computer can't handle running FF and ACT together. To give an advantage only to people with the money to buy it seems shitty no matter how you spin it..
    Hold up, so you think that only people with money having certain advantages over those with less money it shouldn't exist or should not be allowed or whatever.

    Do you actually understand how the real world works?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crystal_Raven View Post
    Hold up, so you think that only people with money having certain advantages over those with less money it shouldn't exist or should not be allowed or whatever.

    Do you actually understand how the real world works?
    Did...you actually read their post?

    I think you have misunderstood the point.

    Moro is not saying that it shouldn't exist...they are actually saying the opposite: that it should exist so both can have access to it.

    I think the point was it would be nice if PS4 users also have the option to parse like PC users can. Sure, the system right now is don't ask don't tell, but without an official one then PS4 users are kinda left out even if they have the desire to opt in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    Did...you actually read their post?

    I think you have misunderstood the point.

    Moro is not saying that it shouldn't exist...they are actually saying the opposite: that it should exist so both can have access to it.

    I think the point was it would be nice if PS4 users also have the option to parse like PC users can. Sure, the system right now is don't ask don't tell, but without an official one then PS4 users are kinda left out even if they have the desire to opt in.
    I don't think they were being serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoodRat View Post
    I don't think they were being serious.
    My bad if that is the case xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    I didn't blame you but plenty of players play on ps4, myself included. Others I know can play on PC but their computer can't handle running FF and ACT together. To give an advantage only to people with the money to buy it seems shitty no matter how you spin it.

    Hell, with this logic just cancel ps4 support for the game - you can play it on pc after all, not our fault it isn't available on ps4.
    Okay now, calm down. ACT and the FFXIV plugins were made by 3rd parties. They have no obligation to make it available to everyone. Hell, they could even charge for it! Not all PCs are made equal. That's the reality of PC gaming. Things need resources. If you run more than 1 thing at the same time, you need more resources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    Okay now, calm down. ACT and the FFXIV plugins were made by 3rd parties. They have no obligation to make it available to everyone. Hell, they could even charge for it! Not all PCs are made equal. That's the reality of PC gaming. Things need resources. If you run more than 1 thing at the same time, you need more resources.
    LOL that would be funny if the charged a monthly subscription for an official ACT. Would not happen, but would be a funny April Fools joke.
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