[Suggestion] Make "remove from friends list" 2-way

[Sukocat]

I understand this is frustrating, and I 100% agree and support this idea. On the other hand, if people couldn't track you via their friends list, they still can via the Lodestone, as every character on it has an ID number that doesn't change no matter how many times you change their name or transfer to a different server. It's how I've kept track of a special few who've made it onto my super duper special blacklist (which is actually currently just one person). They were particularly toxic, and, as they transferred to another server, I can keep track of who they are, even should I find myself on said server for whatever reason. It's by no means a way for me to harass them, but it's certainly a way to keep track of them so you can avoid them. As they have it right now, the only way you can truly get out from under someone's radar is by deleting your character. D:

[MOZZYSTAR]

if people couldn't track you via their friends list, they still can via the Lodestone.

I could care less if they looked up my lodestone, personally. What I do care is if they can still PM me, teleport to my house/apartment, etc. (I don't care if they visit my house, but if they're not on my friends list, why should I be on theirs?), etc. I'm talking regular instances. No longer game together or no longer considered friends, etc.? Just remove them, yenno? If skype and some other social aspects make the removal two-way, there's absolutely no reason FFXIV can't make it two-way.

Edit: seeing the other comments, I totally get why you included that.

So much editing below:

The second I had the courage to clear out my block list and change the name of that character a year later I got an instant message from that person, making me decide to shelve the character once more rather than allow that person to track me unhindered. If I remove someone or even block them, I shouldn't be on their friendslist anymore.

Unfortunately, that's a possibility of unblocking someone who SHOULD be blocked. Not sure if something like 2-way friend removal would wholly aid that situation. I was able to find a friend of mine (ex-eorzean spouse) who changed his name after we both went to different servers (our server was pretty dead). All I did was google his name and Google showed up a character with a different name, but I knew his classes, levels, and such since we used to always play together so I knew this was the same character. Was actually how I found out he and our other old amigos switched servers. So, Suko is right in that X person can still track your Lodestone page and whatnot, even without your character ID code. I think in that situation, you probably should have reported for harassment?


But yes, I agree. Should definitely not be on their friends' list even after you block them - or even after you move servers.

[Enla]

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Oh believe me, I regretted my decision immediately and slapped the block button back on immediately. It was my mistake, but it highlighted the fact that all this time that person was /tracking me/ and knew when I logged on and even where I was in game. Yes they can do the same thing just putting my names in, but a name change might have helped with that had they not always had a bead on who I was and where I was at all times. Even having one less avenue available to someone like that would do my heart a world of good, block or no.

As for the harassment issue. This was well over a year ago and I haven't logged into that character very much since then, nor was I thinking clearly enough at the time to get screenshots to handle the situation properly. By the time I calmed down enough it was too late as I dipped offline the moment they contacted me and were sufficiently blocked.

[MOZZYSTAR]

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That sounds like a bit of a scary situation! I'm sorry you had to go through that. If it ever happens again (hopefully it won't), it sounds like you know how to handle it from your end at least. Perhaps changing characters was for the best anyhow, even if all that work was lost.

[Araxes]

I absolutely hate this fact too. I recently had Problems with stalking due to blocked people still be able to see where i am and following me around. I asked the support for assistance or if they could remove me from theyr Friendlist but i didnt get any help.

[Penthea]

This has to be an oversight. No way can this be intentional.

You can't add someone to your friend list without them also adding you, so it makes no sense that when you remove them that you don't also get removed.

I fail to see the gain in this being one-sided. It makes it harder for people to leave unpleasant memories behind, and it makes it easier for those who take joy in stalking to very easily follow their prey.

This makes me wonder about the teleport to friend's housing feature. Does this mean people I have removed from my friend list and have blacklisted can teleport to my house and my fc?

Good God SE you do some great things but this is ridiculous.

[MOZZYSTAR]

This makes me wonder about the teleport to friend's housing feature. Does this mean people I have removed from my friend list and have blacklisted can teleport to my house and my fc?

I am honestly not sure about this, but I think in theory that they would be able to if they can send you mail and access your info via the friend list, etc. I believe that I have someone from my old FC on my list that may no longer have me on their list (I think this because they no longer notice me/greet me/etc. whenever I see them, they just run right by me). I just tried to teleport to his FC house out of curiosity and I was able to teleport successfully. If they had removed me,then yes: people can teleport to your home even if they're not on your list because you're on THEIR list... but, I could be wrong and I might still be on their list... In which case... experiment failed? (It would be awkward to ask, haaa... /dies inside. "Hey, uhm, hi. We uh, used to try the Kugane puzzle tower together. Do you still have me on your friends' list? :'3 " "...Who ARE you?!" "Aaahh, I'm sorrryyy. Dx /identity crisis." <-- I imagine it going like this. >>;; )

[Niwashi]

This makes me wonder about the teleport to friend's housing feature. Does this mean people I have removed from my friend list and have blacklisted can teleport to my house and my fc?

And if a "New Adventurer" has removed and blacklisted someone, but that someone has an Aetheryte Pendulum, it can still be used to teleport to the aetherite nearest the new player's current location for free.

[MOZZYSTAR]

The friendlist-removal isn't the only thing that is only 1-way.
When you are married and then divorce, then your ex is still considered being married with you, he can even teleport to you with the ring.
Got divorced from my ex 1-way, then after a year my ex came back and used the ring to teleport to me.

The fffuuuu---... Holy crap. Glad I moved servers, then, cuz my Eorzean spouse did not want to "divorce" for like...two years even though I wasn't on the game at the time. Still didn't want to even after I came back, so he probably didn't relinquish ring.

And if a "New Adventurer" has removed and blacklisted someone, but that someone has an Aetheryte Pendulum, it can still be used to teleport to the aetherite nearest the new player's current location for free.

This is also a messed up. :/
Hope you guys don't mind, but I'd like to add your quotes to the first post!

[Araxes]

And if a "New Adventurer" has removed and blacklisted someone, but that someone has an Aetheryte Pendulum, it can still be used to teleport to the aetherite nearest the new player's current location for free.

I didnt know that :O Se really need to fix that stuff