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    Gravagar's Avatar
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    Amanogawa Murasaki
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Riyshn View Post
    1750p of Embrace heals, technically. Because of pet potencies. And... yeah. It's an ability that you need to think about when you want to use. Why is that a bad thing? You don't use Dissipation when you plan on using one of the fairy skills within the next 30 seconds. Same way an AST doesn't use Sleeve Draw when Draw is nearly off cooldown or their slots are already full, or a MCH has to be careful of when they Overheat, or a SMN wants to be careful with the timings around Summon Bahamut and Rouse. The extra healing/shield from just 2 Succors from the healing boost already makes up about as much healing as Embrace and is AoE, or if you need it single target, the 20% boost plus extra stacks is way more than 1750p if you actually need that on the tank.
    Embraces are also completely free, with no MP, GCD, aetherflow, or CD cost to me at all, whereas succor / adlo cost quite a bit of MP. If I choose not to burn MP on dissipation-succors and not to burn swiftcast on summon instead of (raise, miasma, broils, heals), I can afford to throw out more miasma 2s and swiftcast-spells in order to keep the aetherflow flowing. Two succors and a summon is 5280 MP- more than 25% of my entire MP pool. Could've been a few miasma 2s (which sometimes pay for themselves by nature of instant cast).
    oh
    dissipation needs a spellcasting mp cost reduction, doesn't it
    i think it needs an mp cost reduction, seeing how it encourages you to violently consume your mp
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    Riyshn's Avatar
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    Riyshn'a Nhise
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gravagar View Post
    Embraces are also completely free, with no MP, GCD, aetherflow, or CD cost to me at all, whereas succor / adlo cost quite a bit of MP. If I choose not to burn MP on dissipation-succors and not to burn swiftcast on summon instead of (raise, miasma, broils, heals), I can afford to throw out more miasma 2s and swiftcast-spells in order to keep the aetherflow flowing. Two succors and a summon is 5280 MP- more than 25% of my entire MP pool. Could've been a few miasma 2s (which sometimes pay for themselves by nature of instant cast).
    ...Ok? GCDs (time) and MP are both resources that are meant to be used. It's... why they exist as mechanics, instead of just letting us spam abilities as fast as we can press the button forever. It's up to the player to make the value decision on how best to use them. Which is why I think I'd prefer to end this here, as it's becoming apparent that we just value the pros/cons of Dissipation differently, and at this point neither of us is going to convince the other.

    oh
    dissipation needs a spellcasting mp cost reduction, doesn't it
    i think it needs an mp cost reduction, seeing how it encourages you to violently consume your mp
    That's... not a suggestion I've seen before, actually. I like it.
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