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  1. #31
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    Marius Heilstos
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    To me such a "pretty shitty" to poetry is not friendly, or. It would just be a request to leave the tunnel and look outside the box. To smell the astro is not the English way, when THREE healers sit at a table.
    You did not answer any of my questions at least, but one should slander rather the AST changes that you get than to be happy to have a stronger healer partner.

    And to compare the change of Malefic with the Balnce card is very daring and maybe too ungraceful. But alright, I ended up with Divine Benison with a Critlo.

    And Shar is right thats the Point but should the WHM get? And how can SE incorporate this adjustments to the fundamentals in a short time?
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    Last edited by Heilstos; 06-01-2018 at 08:06 AM.

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    Ast changes are good
    But only thing i would change is
    the level you get Gravity should be learned about 45 or 50
    and if gravity hits a target with combust it spreads it to other ads really it

    Ast is the only one that cant spread its dots
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  3. #33
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    Carlo Vinne
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    My idea for a dissipation rework would be instead of dismissing the fairy, inflict a healing magic potency debuff or silence on her (but keep the inability to resummon so it can't be bypassed by simply recasting Summon/Summon II).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekimmak View Post
    My idea for a dissipation rework would be instead of dismissing the fairy, inflict a healing magic potency debuff or silence on her (but keep the inability to resummon so it can't be bypassed by simply recasting Summon/Summon II).
    Putting her in sleep mode for the time be okay i want them to do this for mchs turret for 30 seconds so no need to respawn
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heilstos View Post
    To me such a "pretty shitty" to poetry is not friendly, or. It would just be a request to leave the tunnel and look outside the box. To smell the astro is not the English way, when THREE healers sit at a table.
    You did not answer any of my questions at least, but one should slander rather the AST changes that you get than to be happy to have a stronger healer partner.

    And to compare the change of Malefic with the Balnce card is very daring and maybe too ungraceful. But alright, I ended up with Divine Benison with a Critlo.

    And Shar is right thats the Point but should the WHM get? And how can SE incorporate this adjustments to the fundamentals in a short time?
    I didn't answer your questions because when I answered you, they weren't there yet. The only part that WAS is the one I quoted in full. However, I cannot make any sense out of what you are trying to say. You are quite literally telling me what I already know, and what I criticize about healer balance, but in an almost unintelligible way.

    Nobody debates Scholar being ungodly powerful. However, as was pointed out by somebody else in another thread, the reason nobody tries to argue about Scholar being ungodly powerful anymore is not because it's super-balanced or anything. It's because it's a lost cause since for some reason SE got it into their heads that Scholar has to be that way.

    And why should I be happy AST got stronger? AST getting stronger won't lead to me getting a better healing partner. It leads to me getting replaced for a better healing partner because WHM was the weakest of the trio to begin with! Absolutely nothing you said in that post you edited after I already answered makes any sense or is in any way connected to what I said. It's completely empty of meaning! Wtf did you even try to tell anyone???
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    Last edited by Yuyuka3; 06-02-2018 at 02:07 AM.

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    The real reason is because WHM doesn't fight for the shield healing spot. It fights for the regen one and only AST fills that role.
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  7. #37
    Player Yuyuka3's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaMett View Post
    The real reason is because WHM doesn't fight for the shield healing spot. It fights for the regen one and only AST fills that role.
    That, too, yes, but what I wrote is also part of it I think. Those are the two main factors why everyone is always comparing WHM to AST - there simply is no comparing to SCH since those two are completely different (in contrast to the former, who compete for the same spot).
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuyuka3 View Post
    I didn't answer your questions because when I answered you, they weren't there yet. The only part that WAS is the one I quoted in full. However, I cannot make any sense out of what you are trying to say. You are quite literally telling me what I already know, and what I criticize about healer balance, but in an almost unintelligible way.

    (...)

    And why should I be happy AST got stronger? AST getting stronger won't lead to me getting a better healing partner. It leads to me getting replaced for a better healing partner because WHM was the weakest of the trio to begin with! Absolutely nothing you said in that post you edited after I already answered makes any sense or is in any way connected to what I said. It's completely empty of meaning! Wtf did you even try to tell anyone???
    I realize that you do not recognize the problem? The astrologer can not only offer regeneration but also shield, but you completely ignore that. The Noc AST can replace the SCH aswell and a small part of the Community uses the Noc AST/WHM that shows the numbers of clear and they are geting better than it was in Havensward! And the new game form, which even I like to play (with Diurnal AST and WHM) proves to be successful in this and the last raidtier. A lot of the community does not see that (I do not think so many here in the forum). The HoT of WHM and AST can stack and is damn strong. Just once an anecdote for the WHM and AST, who have looked over the horizon. Naoki Yoshida and his team opened this Option but no one wants to see it.

    I just wanted to show you (with facts). That the astrologer in Nocturnal and the White mage are not in the long run answer to this ungodly powerful power which the scholar has.

    By the Primisse, that you did not want to or could not answer these questions. Show me the problem. You just have to be afraid of the astrologer because you can not bring the scholar to the water.

    Here should not be denounced that Malefic I - III should be weakened. But what the WHM should get as a special Gemikck to differentiate itself from AST and SCH. And that's exactly what "Exiled_Tonberry" aka Sharl Llyntine understood and does not sink into self-pity and anger at Naoki Yoshida and his team. These have understood where the problem was with the astrologer and just gave us a QoL change, which is innovative in a way I did not seen!

    It should be stopped bumming around and working on constructive ideas, or are you thinking in a different direction like me, Mrs Moonbane?

    If my rough has hurt you, then I apologize here. Nevertheless, should first be considered. What I mean exactly and not so provocation be labeled. We should think together (AST, SCH and WHM) how we can all live in coexistence! And finishing each other up is not part of that, Mrs. Moonbane.
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    Last edited by Heilstos; 06-02-2018 at 06:01 AM.

  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heilstos View Post
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    Please tell me what your native language is. I will not rest until I figure it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riyshn View Post
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    Fait point ! I've always considered it an emergency skill but you're right. It doesn't have to be.

    I keep my stance on the ability / buff issue. This is something that affect all healer and even warrior (since their tank stance doesn't increase healing received from abilities)

    Being able to charge the gauge while the fairy is gone would certainly help.

    And you were right! I wasn't around during Alexander (I heard dps check were awful).
    I did heal OS3 tho
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