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    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChameleonMS View Post
    Enmity is shared responsibility, players that fail to accept this reality can die and enjoy being kicked from parties I am in.
    If enmity was not a shared responsibility then skills such as Diversion, Lucid Dreaming, Tactician, Elusive Jump, Repelling shot, Purification, Merciful Eyes, etc... would not exist.
    I agree with this to an extent, but when it comes to pugs I don't think it can be 100% attributed to trolling dps.

    I manage my enmity on RDM, I have to or a lot of the bad and/or dps-focused pug tanks I encounter wouldn't hold bosses off of me. There are plenty of times lately (especially in normal raid roulette when I get level 70 raids) that sometimes Diversion and Lucid still have 60+ seconds left and I'm close to ripping hate as a RDM.

    While enmity is certainly a shared responsibility I don't think "let any dps that rips hate die" is a reasonable mindset to take on because, as stated, it is a shared responsibility. Part of the burden is on the tank.

    If you have someone obviously trolling you in party chat that's one thing but if they just say something like "flash please" in a dungeon or "maybe enmity combo?" that doesn't so much read as trolling to me as much as something I would say when I notice a tank losing hate. If its like "haha lern 2tank brah git gud scrub Dx" then yeah, by all means please shirk that guy and teach him some manners I just want there to be a line between that and perhaps a dps who outgears you just doing their job well.
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    Jordan O'niell
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    While enmity is certainly a shared responsibility I don't think "let any dps that rips hate die" is a reasonable mindset to take on because, as stated, it is a shared responsibility. Part of the burden is on the tank.
    You are absolutely correct, it is SHARED. If you were in my party, and I saw you pop diversion for your opener, and slowly crept up the enmity ladder, then dropped again with a Lucid, only creep up again. It is my responsibility as the tank to use an aggro combo and/or tank stance to push you back down. The situation you describe is everyone doing their job.

    The situation OP was describing was either trolling, carelessness, or laziness.
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