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  1. #31
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    Nikoru's Avatar
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    I think if they just didn't allow you to engage in the fight while someone is in a cutscene might help, so then you're not forced to watch something again and again and it gives those who want to watch them a chance. Because expecting people to have manners is too much to ask these days it seems. :']

    I'm really sorry you had to deal with that, it sucks.
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    Mi An
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akamadoshi View Post
    ... skipping immediately after the -15 second notice-...
    Here is your error.
    Enjoy your cutscene and stop to care for the people that, as you noticed, doesn't care about you.
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  3. #33
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    Evander Achilles
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    Sophia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    <everything you wrote>

    Also, you indeed DO NOT get the first timer bonus if the new player disbands, gets kicked, or DCs. In order to get your bonus, they need to get their clear.

    Thank you so much, reading your response made me smile very much , I appreciate your understanding. Thank you also for reply!
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  4. #34
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    Baingoleth Crimson
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    Unfortunately there are players who are inconsiderate of others. I think the majority of players are nice but the inconsiderate ones often act like bullies. In group content, the inconsiderate ones tend to run ahead and aggro bosses before everyone in the party is ready. What often happens then is that many people who are actually nice get fear of missing out and run in to fight the boss rather than letting the inconsiderate player solo and die.

    Starting a party finder doesn't always work either. I have had great party finder experiences where the people who joined waited for me so I could see all of the content but that is not always the case. Not too long ago, I started a party finder for "The Binding Coil of Bahamut - Turn 1" because I had not done that raid before and I wanted to see it. The 2 players who joined ran ahead while I was watching the first really short cutscene and I was unable to catch up before they had finished the raid. One of the players told me that he only joined to get the bonus. He didn't care at all that I wanted to see the raid. Some people are just really poorly socialized and treat group content like a single player experience.

    Would making all cutscenes unskippable solve this? Maybe it would. I don't know. I am having no trouble getting into MSQ roulette as WHM or as BLM. The longest I have had to wait is 35 minutes. I don't know of any other group content with cutscenes longer than a few minutes really.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    Be careful about blaming other mmos. In fact, this community is one of the most toxic I've ever seen and that's even accounting for WoW at the height of its popularity circa Lich King.
    This simply isn't true, at all. WoW still has one of the worst, i can't go a day in that game without a racial or other biggoted slur tossed, much less being toxic to other players. I can go months without someone truly toxic here, and they seem to get dealt with pretty quickly.
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  6. #36
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    Hello everyone, I do not think my thread is anymore relevant as SE has answered many pleads like mine to solve cutscene issue.
    We can watch comfortably and accept the direct teleport into battlefield once finished. Thank you all for replying - it has solved this also!
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  7. #37
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    My response to not being allowed to watch cutscenes is to refuse to participate in the fight.

    And since i'm the tank...WIPE!

    And when they inevitably complain about it i tell them that it's their own fault, which just makes them rage harder.
    Well, screw you folks, you started it so stop bitching.
    Cue the Vote Kick and then them standing around for half an hour waiting for a replacement tank, wasting far more time than if they had just let me watch that dang cutscene.
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  8. #38
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mixt View Post
    Cue the Vote Kick and then them standing around for half an hour waiting for a replacement tank, wasting far more time than if they had just let me watch that dang cutscene.
    Riyah: Hey, brb I'm going to switch to tank instead of dps.
    -leaves instance, changes to tank, queues in progress.
    -rejoins party.
    -dps joins one minute later.

    Just, well be careful with that bro.
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  9. #39
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    Someone mentioned about disruptive gameplay ... and I agree. The problems lie in how the 'in dungeon' cutsceens are built in this game. Specifically, it's the way it takes the control away from the player.

    Using WoW as an example here: the cutsceen in wow's dungeon, even raid do not take control away from the players. For example, I remember after you kill Saurfang, there is a rather long talk sequence involves his father, the faction leader and the expedition leader. The players can still jump around, emote, dancing ... whatever during the sequence until it ends. So it serve 2 things:

    - Skip or not-skip was never an issue. Depending on how you look at it, there is nothing to skip, people see it more like a sequence of the fight or down time rather than a cutsceen.
    - It doesn't feel disruptive because it doesn't take the control away from the player. It may sound trivia but I think it makes a huge difference, I know for sure I find it a lot more annoying if the game decide to take the control from me during that same sequence.

    This probably falls into the QoL side of thing, and it's not just this game. I notice this seem to be one of those that Japanese developers have never really caught on to their Western counter-part. Before we players dive into each others and carve ourselves in half. Maybe the better question to ask is why this particular issue is a thing in THIS game, and not others.

    It's just like the housing situation, I'm always baffled at how players are so willingly to jump at each other throat instead of asking why it is an issue in the first place.
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    Last edited by Raven2014; 05-29-2018 at 08:32 AM.

  10. #40
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    Riyah: Hey, brb I'm going to switch to tank instead of dps.
    -leaves instance, changes to tank, queues in progress.
    -rejoins party.
    -dps joins one minute later.

    Just, well be careful with that bro.
    Yep. And I'd also blacklist him for it. Bear in mind I have almost everything in combat as max level, I can do near enough anything. And if they kicked him (as to whether or not I agree to the vote kick depends on what happened and how he phrased it), I would almost certainly say "brb swapping to tank" and doing as you said there. After all, might as well get that duty cleared. But as a tank he gets quick queues so there is that I guess.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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