Revelations from Patch 4.3

[Alleo]

To me, the MSQ was like watching a Shakespear tragedy but also the desacralization of the warrior of light.

And I think this is were it show our failure as Warrior of Light. Because her only image of a "virtuous person" was the old samurai. He was the only light in her heart, the only rempart against her worst fear.

At no point, an image of the Warrior of Light appear to help her. Or perhaps you could say that Gosetsu was her Warrior of Light?

About this (big text incoming)

The question is: Is that really fair to the WoL. First we are still mostly a stranger to this land that helps it people, an outsider that was not there when they all suffered. We also saw her mostly in her monster form, where she is evil and sadistic. We did not know that she survived until later and we also witnessed how she shot Gosetsu, someone that at least grew a bit dear to the WoL.

Then we learn that both somehow survived and she lost her memory. She already had Gosetsu at that moment that protected her since the fall. She didnt need us staying at her side and it would not make sense since we are even barely staying for real friends either. We did not know if she was faking it and since we had other matters to care for we left them in the care of those we trust a bit. We also showed enough kindness by not just slaying her and letting the judgement be done by Hien.

When we returned for this patch it was the first time we really knew that she was not faking it. Yet its not our job and we also dont have time to personally care for her. Again Gosetsu and the others are there to do that and not some stranger. Again we show at least the kindness by agreeing with the exchange and being fine with letting her stay here if she does not get her memories back. This was all we should be realistically expect to do as a stranger.

And we fought her after her own choice of becoming a primal. And again we did not mock her, did not torture her, heck Asahi even implies that we may not have finished her off. Yes we do not appear there because we are a stranger but at the same time we are also her protector. Its us that slays the other enemies of hers in her state and without us even the image of Gosetsu couldnt have done much. (If the WoL fails the mechanics Gosetsu will be the one slain) So we are again helping already.

The WoL was probably never meant as a messiahs. We are an adventurer that went on that path and that still show compassion, saddness, forgiveness and more which makes the WoL already vastly different from Zenos. Even the best person in the world will never be able to help every single soul that lives. Its not our fault and it would be way to much to hold it over the WoL that he/she was not constantly at her side and showing her the good ways. Even Jesus himself needed other people to help him spread his message and acts.

I am not sure if Gosetsu accepted the Yotsuyu before the memory loss. Hien mentioned that he lost his wife and daugther and that her acting like a child probably reminded him of her. I am not saying that he used Tsuyu but these old feelings probably played a big part in this. If she would have stayed the old way the whole time he probably would have watched her die or kill her himself.

There is also no hint in the story that the WoL wants her memories to be back. This is something completely on us. I for example wanted her to die if she regains her memories but I also had accepted that she might get away as Tsuyu and started to see them different. The WoL was shocked about the way that Asahi tried to make her remember, the Wol was also helping with searching for her twice and showed no intent on hurting her. Asahi says that we did not finish the job and even though we did watch him do all the stuff afterwards we were also really angry which was shown in our fist and angry emote. Even I say that she did not deserve that threatment from him and that he was even the bigger monster. But we also might have to accept that the WoL knows when its useless to try to save someone and that maybe they, like humans do, might still not feel good about Yotsuyu. I mean the answers to her were either that Gosetsu would miss her or that Tsuyu deserved better. Which kinda shows that the WoL should probably feel something for Tsuyu but not that much for Yotsuyu.

In the end we sadly are not able to prevent every tragedy, every murder and we are not able to heal every soul. Its impossible. We are already shouldering the burden of being Hydaelyns only hope and at the same time we also shoulder the burden of other people and other conflicts that are not truly ours. It should be allowed that the WoL trust others enough to take care of people that need it. For example we try to bring peace with the beast tribes or help others built up their dreams but afterwards they also have to do this alone. The same here too. We saved both of them from death or capture, did not enact any sort of revenge on her and after her fate was decided we left her in the care of the one person that might understand her the best and it showed that he was the best for her. Sadly she did choose to forsake this and get her revenge and turning back into the monster she was before.

Timeline of the Events Mentioned in the 24-Man... with supplements from the lore book.

The general idea is that some of the Garlean's ancestors were form Goug. They abandoned the city for the continent after their city/tower was destroyed (and were taken in by the country of Ivalice). Ivalice's population is then forced out of Ivalice and they eventually found Garlemld in the far north of Ilsabard. Dalmasca is then founded where Ivalice was.

About 24 man raid

My problem of understanding is: They say that Dalmasca was already ruled nearly 1000 years long until it fell 30 years ago. If Dalmasca was only founded when Gog was destroyed then these people and thus Ivalice are over 1000 years old. Which is such a huge time that I have a hard time understanding how they would find any prove that those who fledfrom Gog over 1000 years (or even more then because Gog was already in ruins when these people found and used it as an lighthouse) are somehow connected to the Garleans that only 50 years ago came together and formed the nation we know. Why did they not improve their live until Garlemald was founded? Over 1000 years should be more than enough to built up empires again and again. If Dalmasca came later, why did those from Gog not simply built their places on the ground of Dalmasca or Rabanastre?

So for me it feels more like that they either coexisted for a longer time and Gog was simply outside their border and maybe they even had a conflict. Seeing how they themselved destroyed their city with their technic maybe Dalmasca did not like their advancement and thus did not want to take them in after the explosion?

I wonder if we learn at the end of the story that they have anchestors in Ivalice and that as a consequence they begin to understand that not every single technical item should be constructed otherwise it could be the downfall of a nation. I mean even Cid hinted at this by saying that this was the reasoning of the old emporer. That its not the weapon that kills but the one that wields it, and used that to create horrible stuff.