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  1. #511
    Player
    Enla's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jorge6029 View Post
    This needs to get back to normal, Need > Greed > Pass is a good system. If someone wants to get gear for its alerts, then they should play the job, they will also get some exp playing the job. The only reason I can imagine is to make it more difficult to get your set so the content will be relevant for more time
    Or hell, let us roll for tokens if this was such a prevalent problem that needed fixing. Have one token needed per piece of gear, and still give us the chance to acquire one after every boss. Or even a free 'you did your job' token at the end of the raid. Rolling for 6 tokens versus 42 individual pieces that aren't guaranteed to drop and often overlap one another is a far better solution to the 'problem'. Though frankly after seeing the anger both in and out of game, they /made/ a problem out of what was a perfectly acceptable situation.
    (7)

  2. #512
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    Vurtney's Avatar
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    Saryn Storm
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    Cerberus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    As mentioned already, the current system would work as is if there was a token reward at the end of the raid. You either get the piece you're trying to get as a drop or trade X amount of tokens for it (let's say 5-6 tokens for 1 piece) The token piece would count as a weekly raid drop piece.
    (5)

  3. #513
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Character
    Skadi Felis
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Mendalas View Post
    People who roll on gear that they can't even wear are ignorant. You get 1 per week. I can't imagine that you are gonna come across people who keep doing this.
    For now you get 1 per week. It will not be this way in 4.4. Then good luck to get some gears once 4.4 is here.
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  4. #514
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Character
    Light Khah
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 91
    Finished the raid a few minutes ago and I feel a bit bad for all healers that go into there as a main and lose the roll to someone else or me. I do play healer from time to time and its the second highest job that I have geared up but Summoner is still my main. I think nearly all of the healer drops from the raid went to someone that were not healing and I am not sure that all of them really needed it. (As in having a job high enough to use it) I am not a fan of this raid so I just wanted to be done with that thus I rolled on anything that was at least high enough that I could wear it right now on some jobs..and in the end I won the healer piece which did upgrade my job but which is not my main job.

    So even after seeing it live I still hate this change!
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    Last edited by Alleo; 05-23-2018 at 08:42 PM.
    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  5. #515
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    Jijifli's Avatar
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 55
    Just finished my run. Lost the hat for my BLM to a DRG who had 0 casters leveled.

    Ya they totally aren't gonna rob people.
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  6. #516
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    Sylvain's Avatar
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    Sylvestre Solscribe
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    @jijifli well that's actually sad for the dragoon. You can still roll on something you might use (technically anything since your jobs are all 70), that dragoon wasted its only roll one something he can't even use.

    @Alleo
    How do you know the healer wanted the healer gear? I did it as a healer and rolled on the tank pieces only.
    (0)

  7. #517
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    Kytelian's Avatar
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    Kytelian Synzai
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvain View Post
    @Alleo
    How do you know the healer wanted the healer gear? I did it as a healer and rolled on the tank pieces only.
    You can see who rolls on what pieces of gear. The DRG who rolled on the Caster hat may also just be rolling for seal turn ins or they could be leveling up a caster and are setting the gear aside for later.
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  8. #518
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    Sylvain's Avatar
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    Sylvestre Solscribe
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Or like most people not reading patch note they could be spamming greed by default xD
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  9. #519
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    Devils_Lawyer's Avatar
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    Devils Lawyer
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    Cactuar
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    Summoner Lv 90
    If Japan wants a different loot system then give them that, dont shit on the rest of your playerbase just cause you care more about them then us.
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  10. #520
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvain View Post
    @jijifli well that's actually sad for the dragoon. You can still roll on something you might use (technically anything since your jobs are all 70), that dragoon wasted its only roll one something he can't even use.
    Oh I still got a caster chest with a super lucky roll. However, I felt sorry for our RDM in the party, who had a 330 hat. He could have used that, and he did roll higher than I did. Sadly, DRG wanted the hat.
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